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I think a pretty good arguement could be made that he is not one of the top ten players in the game. If he is not he is close. And he is the best SS in professional baseball, until Rodriguez decides he wants to play short again. Tejada was 39th in MLB in OPS, and he plays average at best defense. And what were his offensive numbers compared to other SS? I'll take average defense with the numbers he puts up. You are going to have to break off this obsession you have with demonstrating that Tejada isn't that good. It does not hold water, especially given his contract in compairson other top of the line SS. Who cares about what he is compared to other SS? The question was top 10 players in baseball, so position is mostly irrelevant. But since you asked, Young, Peralta, and Jeter were all on par with him last year, and Young and Peralta's contracts are nothing compared to Tejada's. I'm not trying to say that Tejada isn't good, but he's not one of the top 10 players in the game, and he's not worth writing a blank check to acquire. The only reason there's an impression that I'm trying to say he's not good is because so many people overvalue him based on his name, or his sizzling start to last season, or whatever. -
I think a pretty good arguement could be made that he is not one of the top ten players in the game. If he is not he is close. And he is the best SS in professional baseball, until Rodriguez decides he wants to play short again. Tejada was 39th in MLB in OPS, and he plays average at best defense. 12th in VORP And around 20th in VORP rate, but I don't like VORP anyways. I'm curious, what don't you like about VORP? Do you just perfer rates in general? I don't know exactly what goes into VORP, but not to sound old-fashioned and paranoid, I'm not sure how much weight I can put into a metric that claims to be a good park-adjusted measure of offensive performance, and then puts Alfonso Soriano as one of the top 50 hitters, ahead of people like Tracy, Nick Johnson, Floyd, etc. Also, I do prefer rates in just about every instance. The only reason I wouldn't prefer them is if the numbers have been put up in a small sample, and at that point there's not a lot that is going to be a very good measurement.
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I think a pretty good arguement could be made that he is not one of the top ten players in the game. If he is not he is close. And he is the best SS in professional baseball, until Rodriguez decides he wants to play short again. Tejada was 39th in MLB in OPS, and he plays average at best defense. 12th in VORP And around 20th in VORP rate, but I don't like VORP anyways.
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I think a pretty good arguement could be made that he is not one of the top ten players in the game. If he is not he is close. And he is the best SS in professional baseball, until Rodriguez decides he wants to play short again. Tejada was 39th in MLB in OPS, and he plays average at best defense.
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12/11 - Bears vs. Steelers
Transmogrified Tiger replied to burnt out cubbie fan's topic in Other Sports
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C'mon, don't take things out of context! It's pretty much saying, "If, in the unlikely event that Miguel Tejada is traded, the Cubs are the early frontrunners." I guess that may be viewed as optimistic, but I was really expecting something else when I read the topic title/message... It doesn't really matter, because I really doubt Rosenthal knows any more than you or me. It doesn't take any insider knowledge to say that "they probably won't trade Tejada, but here's who's been in the paper the most inquiring about him".
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I think either the Cubs will get Tejada within the next couple of days or the Angels or Astros will swoop in and get him in a week. I doubt the Astros, simply because they have to set aside SOME money to possibly re-sign Clemens, if Roger wants to come back in 2006. Besides outside of Taylor Buchloz (the kid that got for Wagner, sp?) is prolly the closest to being a "high end prosect" the Astros have. And if the Stros are seriously considering the Lidge for Abreu deal, then that would effectively take them out of the Tejada sweepstakes. Realistically,it is really down to two teams...Cubs and Angels. They didn't offer Clemens arbitration, they can't sign him until May 1.
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But we're getting Loewen too, so we need to throw in someone else. Not quite Pie or Dopirak, but close to that. While we're asking, would they like the rights to Wrigley as well?
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Can Juan work on hitting more XBH's this year? Please?
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This isn't anything new. Rosenthal is the anti-scoop.
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Maybe a couple of years prior, but I think he proved that to be a myth in '05. Home: 331/386/527/913 Away: 330/384/500/884 Now show the three year averages... You said that no one was close to Tejada anymore, and there were several guys that were very close, and Young was better.
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MSU lost to Hawaii, but it was their first game of the year and their entire core went down with cramps in the second half. I don't really know how you can say they don't look like a top 10 team. They've beaten two top 10 teams, and lost to another in triple OT. Their defense and rebounding are improving since Trannon came back, and their offense is firing on all cylinders. If they aren't a top 10 team, then who is?
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Young, Jeter, Peralta
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Look out Dee is starting to find his shot, the further he gets from his surgery the better. Did anyone else notice the announcers talking about how great Luther Head is then not recognizing it was him sitting behind Dee and James during the game? If he is so great, why don't you recognize him. :alright: i didnt notice luther either, but i wasnt watching really closely. oregon just looked really bad, unless thats just the defense. randle needs to get in on the scoring more often, and arnold looked good today. If Randle gets going, I like the Illini's chances of winning the Big 10 again. Illinois is undefeated and hasn't come close to playing their best ball yet. The lost a lot when Deron and Head left, but they are better defensively and are a lot more physical now, IMO. I am a lot more optimistic about the team than I was before the season started, mainly because MSU, Indiana and Iowa aren't living up to their billing. They aren't living up to their billing? Each of them has a bad loss, but each of them has played a much tougher schedule. Gonzaga, Arizona, BC, Texas, Kentucky(twice), Duke, and probably NC State are all better than anyone Illinois has played thus far. Iowa may be showing that they aren't as good as advertised, but Horner went down late in that UNI game, and with him there's a decent chance they still only have one loss.
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Nomar's played 142 games the last 2 years. Bradley has played 216. Nomar is a sidearming SS, and Bradley is a well above average defensive CF. I think Bradley would make a much easier transition there than Nomar.
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And in all nine threads you've complained about there being too many threads. Why not just let the mods decide how to do it? Well, the 4 post JC Romero deal thread just got pushed off the first page.... Seriously though, it's not like it's pushing other discussions to obscurity.
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Hahahaha, that was one of the most ironic things I've ever read. Well done Mr. Angelos.
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Michigan State's offense is really firing on all cylinders. Gray and Trannon are really making strides to shore up the defense and rebounding. I feel really good about them doing a lot of damage to the B10.
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Part of the argument here is durability, though, so I don't like using rate stats when that's the case. Ramirez+Lugo = 43 Win Shares, 36 offensive Tejada+Mora = 45 Win Shares, 36 offensive And I don't like Win Shares at all. :D Let's look at it this way: Tejada is the best offensive SS in baseball still playing SS. Bar none. I'd put ARam behind: - ARod - Wright - Ensberg - Chipper - Rolen Again, don't get me wrong. I really like ARam. But Tejada is a better SS than ARam is a 3B. But I'll emphasize again that I wouldn't do the trade if I had to give up Aramis. I'm not a Win Shares fan either. The point is though, that even though Tejada is better relative to his position, his production is higher than Tejada's so that a weaker SS relative to an alternative 3B still makes it a better combination. I also think rate stats are better to look at it, since Ramirez isn't that stricken, and none of the other players have had serious injury issues.
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I know everyone would like to see something guaranteed solid to fill that question mark, but the quesion has to be asked: does that lineup allow the Corey Patterson Experiment to continue on the northside of Chicago? Would Cliff Floyd playing RF be enough to allow Neifi to start at SS? Same question.
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Part of the argument here is durability, though, so I don't like using rate stats when that's the case. Ramirez+Lugo = 43 Win Shares, 36 offensive Tejada+Mora = 45 Win Shares, 36 offensive
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Using VORP Rate(I don't like VORP very much anyways), in 2005: Tejada: .419 Mora: .260 Total: .679 Ramirez: .407 Lugo: .303 Total: .710
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FWIW, Ramirez is 2 years younger than Tejada as well.
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Another Baker thread
Transmogrified Tiger replied to burnt out cubbie fan's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I'll be shocked if Murton's doing that badly after 100 ABs. Don't be. -
Pet Peeve: Rolen is completely unnecessary in this discussion. We're talking about Ramirez, and when a Cards fan questions his injuries, the first thing brought up is Rolen. It's the same thing if a Cub fan questions Carpenter's durability, and a Card fan responds by questioning Prior or Wood. It doesn't accomplish anything but upsetting people.
