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  1. raw
    Dream scenario-19 teams pass on Wilson citing his leadership, etc. problems, falls into the Bears lap. Bears take a chance on the potential locker room cancer and Wilson becomes the first franchise QB in modern Bears history, kicking GB ass along the way while ridiculing them. For once the Bears get to make the rest of the NFL look like horsefeathering idiots. If he makes it past 8, trade up to get him. Hell, if he gets past the Jets, I'd trade a pair of 1sts and a 3rd to move up for him over trading 2 firsts for Derek Carr.
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    Bulls '20-'21

    raw replied to Brian's topic in Other Sports

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    Minshew is low-key.....not terrible. He completed over 66% of his passes this year. He played at a 4000 yard, 30 TD pace this year. And he quietly doesn't make many mistakes. His INT rate is only 1.4%, which is the same INT rate as the all-time leader in NFL history, Aaron Rodgers. Obviously, he's very young in his career, but he's probably not a guy that's going to all of a sudden be careless with the ball. Even if he never puts up those impressive numbers over a full 16-game season, he only has a 900K and then 1M cap hit over the next 2 years. Not a guy that's going to save Pace and Nagy's jobs, so I don't think he's a realistic option, but if the Bears wanted a bridge QB, with at least some potential, he's one of the better options. Has a bit of a fumbling problem though. 18 fumbles on 20 starts. Yikes. Didn't look at that, just passing stats. Fumbles are a worse issue than INTs to me, simply because fumbles from QBs typically go backwards in field position.
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    Minshew is low-key.....not terrible. He completed over 66% of his passes this year. He played at a 4000 yard, 30 TD pace this year. And he quietly doesn't make many mistakes. His INT rate is only 1.4%, which is the same INT rate as the all-time leader in NFL history, Aaron Rodgers. Obviously, he's very young in his career, but he's probably not a guy that's going to all of a sudden be careless with the ball. Even if he never puts up those impressive numbers over a full 16-game season, he only has a 900K and then 1M cap hit over the next 2 years. Not a guy that's going to save Pace and Nagy's jobs, so I don't think he's a realistic option, but if the Bears wanted a bridge QB, with at least some potential, he's one of the better options.
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    I don’t think the issue for anyone is Wentz in and of himself. The Bears need someone the play QB next year and he certainly isn’t the worst option. The question is the cost to get him in cap space and draft capital. There’s a trade for Wentz that makes sense. It’s just that most of us have zero faith in Pace to be able to pull it off and pretty much every news leak and/or baseless speculative tweet on possible packages confirms our fears. Nitpicky point, but the random leaks in lying season don't confirm anything. I agree that the suggested trades are not good, from a Bears perspective, but the devil is in the details. Even if they do something like trade their 2022 1st (on the surface a horrible idea), maybe they're getting back the Eagles 2nd, which makes a good bit of sense from a value standpoint. If the Eagles are giving a 2nd this year and getting a 1st next year that's a steal for the Bears at that point, especially if they take Foles also. I'm guessing if the Eagles are giving a 2nd, it would be a 3rd this year going from the Bears as well as a 2022 1st. But in general, if the Bears don't have a net loss of a top 3 pick this year and lose just 1 next year, I'll take that in most scenarios.
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    Based on league revenue. I believe the salary cap is 50% of the total league revenue. So, 180M X 32 teams = 1/2 of the money made by the league. Players get half, owners pocket the other half split evenly.
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    Ok guys, chill out a bit. Nobody's getting Carr without giving up a 1st and at least another top 100 pick. We don't even know for sure that Wentz will be an overpay. There will be plenty of time to complain about this trade after it actually happens.
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    Probably because Houston wants to do all they can to keep him and has rebuffed all proposalsYea. And Pace clearly isn't going to wait out the market. Yeah that's my biggest issue with this. Superbowl hasn't even been played yet. A month + til the league year opens. Wait to see if Watson, Carr, Dak, someone decent you don't have to trade draft picks for becomes available. If you can't get one of those guys, then if nobody else trades for Wentz, you have a 3-day window where the Eagles are pretty desperate or else they owe Wentz his 10Mil bonus. If someone else trades for Wentz in the meantime, the worst thing that happens is you have all your draft picks, whatever cap space you've created, and aren't counting on the league's worst QB in 2020. Not the end of the world.
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    So now sounding like a 2022 1st to Philly. Have seen rumors of Bears getting a 3rd this year. And Cohen NOT being involved (no Ertz either). While I generally LOVE the idea of the short-on-cap Bears getting an extra top 100 pick this year and a future pick (when the Bears will have cap space) is worth less than a current one, it has the potential to really backfire if Wentz, is bad again and be a top 10 pick. Probably going down Monday or Tuesday. Sent from my SM-A115AZ using Tapatalk
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    Beat me to it. First thought on "another offensive player" is Anthony Miller. But I did read someone say Ertz could be involved too. This could be quite the wild trade involving all players that each team has soured on. Sent from my SM-A115AZ using Tapatalk Why would we want Ertz? I don't want him, but who knows what the hell Pace is thinking? Sent from my SM-A115AZ using Tapatalk
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    Beat me to it. First thought on "another offensive player" is Anthony Miller. But I did read someone say Ertz could be involved too. This could be quite the wild trade involving all players that each team has soured on. Sent from my SM-A115AZ using Tapatalk
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    https://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2021/2/6/22269990/carson-wentz-trade-rumors-bears-nick-foles-nfl-news-eagles-quarterback-philadelphia-picks-packaage Reading thru all the tea leaves with the tweets in this thread and the above link (featuring the original leaker, Brandon Robinson).....it sounds like: Wentz + a mid round pick (guessing a 3rd this year- 70th overall) for 2021 1st, 2022 3rd and Foles.
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    Wentz's ranks in DVOA the last 4 years: 6th, 13th, 20th, 34th Trubisky's: 29th (Rookie year), 19th, 26th, 24th Wentz is probably better than Trubisky, but I think the point is it's way too close for this to be the guy you hitch your wagon to. The only real arguments for Wentz being actually good and not just good by Bears' standards essentially boil down to making it 2017 again through either science or magic. Wentz is clearly better, but not significantly better. But let's stop thinking that Mitch is an actual factor here. The Bears aren't bringing him back. When he was a factor, Nagy didn't even let him throw the ball any significant distance down the field....boosting his stats to make this even as close as it is. Ultimately, Wentz would probably be similar to Cutler. League average to slightly above, probably good enough to compete with the franchise records, but needs everything to go right with the OL, run game, weapons and his own health to do anything of substance in January.
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    I'm assuming any trade with the Eagles would involve Foles. If no Wentz, the Eagles have no #2 QB. Foles is a legend in Philly and the ideal backup to mentor Hurts. The Bears are up to the cap right now. Depending on where you look, the cap is supposed to be about 185M next year, and the Bears are about 500K over it. 5.3M of Foles deal would go to the Eagles. 25.4M of Wentz's deal would come to the Bears, so net of 20Mil basically. Also, this move would probably hurt the chances of ARob staying. Have to clear 20Mil for Wentz, then another 18Mil if ARob is tagged. Be easier to fit the 1st year of a long-term deal into the cap, but I don't really see Robinson going, "oh snap, we got Wentz! I'm staying!"
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    Another thing I will say is if there is a deal close, I really hope the Bears drag their feet on this a little. There's no reason to go crazy to get Wentz when potentially Watson, Carr, draft picks, and Dak are still on table. Even if they asked about all these QBs and the price is astronomical, while the Wentz deal is a steal, asking prices do come down as reality starts to hit. Even the Eagles will become more desperate when it gets close to March 19 and they have to write that 10Mil check for Wentz and keep him thru the year.
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    Carson Wentz has $59M guaranteed left on his deal and was the worst full time QB in the NFL last year. I don't understand why it isn't incumbent on them to pay us for the favor of taking him. I’m with you. I don’t see why the Bears should give up much in value for the privilege of paying Wentz $20MM a year. Put Mitch’s and Wentz’s career numbers side by side. Wentz is better but only marginally so. Certainly not to the extent where the Bears should be giving up picks to pay him $20MM a year when Mitch could be had for Marcus Mariota’s contract. Not that those are the only two options. I just don’t see why one guy is gold in the Bears’ eyes and the other guy is trash. Eh. The difference is Wentz has an MVP caliber season in 2017 before he got hurt. He lowkey followed that up with a season where his completion percentage was 9.5% better, his yards per game, and passer rating all increased (again before injury). Mitch can't touch Wentz's 2017-18. While it remains to be seen if Wentz can touch it again, Trubisky has all but proven he never will.
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    Carson Wentz has $59M guaranteed left on his deal and was the worst full time QB in the NFL last year. I don't understand why it isn't incumbent on them to pay us for the favor of taking him. It's not quite that bad for a team that trades for him. It's basically a 2 year, 47 million dollar deal with two team options after that. As for compensation, it's mostly a competition thing. If multiple teams think they can fix him and have his value go way higher, then that's going to raise his trade value significantly. And the Eagles don't have that much incentive to trade him this year without getting something. Eagles take on all his signing bonus, which is technically already paid. So, acquiring team would get Wentz for: 2021- 15.4 Mil base salary + 10Mil roster bonus if the trade is executed before March 19 (it will be or they won't trade him) 2022- 22Mil base salary
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    I'd maybe consider like a pick swap. 20 to 37 is like a late 2nd round value per the trade chart, and the new age analytical charts would say it's even less probably. Maybe even get a mid rounder. Wentz +37 + 69 for Foles + 20 I'd do that in a heartbeat. I think if the Bears can come out of this with an unquestioned improved starter (Wentz is debatable I guess) and can hold onto pick 20, they'd probably trade down in the 1st to get more picks anyway. I don't like "more than most would expect" at all though.
  19. raw
    I think everything around him starting falling apart. Only 1 other even started the 12 games he started, and that was his center, Jason Kelce. They were a little healthier on the OL in 2019, but notoriously lost every WR they counted on at some point in the season. And his 2019 wasn't bad. It was pretty average, but he wound up with near the same yards per game, same INTs, and much better completion % than his MVP caliber 2017 season. Seems like a textbook case of a guy trying to do too much with everything around him falling apart. He got sacked 2nd most in the league 50x this year, despite missing 4 1/2 games after being benched. Their line was atrocious.
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    Gonna be? We've already seen a Superbowl QB, who won a playoff game last month get traded for a QB with 0 playoff wins and that team give up 2 first round picks to get rid of that guy. The only way to "win" in this market is to get the best prize or get the best value. i understand what you were trying to do here and why you were trying to do it, but if goff is a "superbowl qb" then the term carries no weight. we don't need to call every guy who has played in a superbowl a superbowl QB. or we can, but then the term is meaningless/useless. either way is ok. that sentence just characterizes them in a way that misleads about the fact that stafford is a clear upgrade over west coast mitch. Oh i fully agree. Just saying this has already been a crazy market.
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    Gonna be? We've already seen a Superbowl QB, who won a playoff game last month get traded for a QB with 0 playoff wins and that team give up 2 first round picks to get rid of that guy. The only way to "win" in this market is to get the best prize or get the best value.
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    Carson Wentz trade picking up some steam. Not necessarily with the Bears, but supposedly the Eagles have gotten some "strong offers". The Bears are obviously one of the teams to watch with Wentz because of the coaching staff's familiarity with him (DeFilippo) and his familiarity with the offense. Colts obviously another. I have liked Wentz as a potential option, because he has played at an MVP level in the recent past, he's still young, and because I thought his price would be a lot cheaper than the other non-Watson options. I was thinking he could be had for Foles + a 3rd + a conditional 2022 pick (anywhere between 2nd and 4th round). But if they've gotten multiple offers, I speculate that a 1st round pick could be in play.....and I don't like him for that much with the risk there that he could continue to be bad.
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    In Brad Biggs' mailbag he says that it seems "more likely than not" Robinson gets franchised.
  24. raw
    If IU would have won that game, I would have complained for you guys. But it was pretty bad all the way around, but I felt IU got the most bad calls in their favor.
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    Hey, I already said in this or the other other teams thread that I played football with the Chargers head coach (and didn't realize it). I also apparently live a few houses from the house Barry Alvarez (former Wisconsin HC and AD) grew up in.
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