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penn state football, 2000-04: 26-33, 16-24 conference record, 1 bowl appearance. 2005-09: 51-13, 29-11 conference record, 5 bowl appearances people were basically throwing dirt on the psu program and saying they'd never recover until paterno retired and they brought in mostly new staff. the last five years they and ohio st have been the class of the conference. it's hard to keep great college football programs down for long. Over the last 5 years, the have been on top (he isn't stating anything other than they have turned around what a bad situation previous to that). But that is not the point he is making, the point of the comment is that teams can rebound. I've read the post, I know what it says. That's why a page or two ago I told truffle that I thought adding that PSU was among the class of the big 10 took away from his larger point. did you see that post I made? So we have the following: 1) You agree with the conclusion that he reached regarding "rebounding" programs. 2) You don't like that he threw in a comment that essentially was as "aside" to his argument. This is because he is a fan of said team, making him look like a homer. OK then. I as an Illini fan will say the following: people were basically throwing dirt on the psu program and saying they'd never recover until paterno retired and they brought in mostly new staff. the last five years they and ohio st have been the class of the conference. it's hard to keep great college football programs down for long. The five year windows he created were not an arbitrary cutoff to declare his school superior to any other school. They were created to show a valid point he had. He then simply stated tacked on a conclusion (a correct one) from the same window that was previously created.

jesus truffle. cutting out the first half of your post where you discuss their record over the last 10 years and then bolding and underlining 4 words doesn't make me look stupid, it makes you look ridiculous. I'm fully capable of reading what you wrote. You used a 10-year period, divided it to make your school look better, and then made a statement that looks crazy since OSU has won outright or shared the big ten title each of the last 5 years. OSU has been the class of the conference for the last 5 years (and more). PSU hasn't distinguished itself apart from the 2nd tier as among the class of the conference during any period of time. But again, his point wasn't that PSU wasn't the class of anything. The point was that periods of crappiness can be followed by periods of success. That declaring Michigan as a goner was short sighted. Really? He said PSU was, with OSU, the class of the big ten for the last 5 years. So much was this his point that he went back to quote part of his post about it and highlight 4 words. I think that very much was his point. As an aside, no one is saying UM football is a goner, nor has anyone said or implied that it's dead. But it's not the program it was 15-25 years ago. Will it be again? Maybe. But it could just as easily settle in behind OSU with the rest of the good, sometimes great, teams in the conference. It's not a foregone conclusion that the UM/OSU game will continue to be the de facto conference title game as many think it has been (i.e., the winner will go on to beat whomever shows up from the west in the title game). it's certainly not necessarily true that the 3 best teams/programs in the conference (going forward) are OSU, UM, and PSU, which is really the larger point. Really. Reread the post.... penn state football, 2000-04: 26-33, 16-24 conference record, 1 bowl appearance. 2005-09: 51-13, 29-11 conference record, 5 bowl appearances people were basically throwing dirt on the psu program and saying they'd never recover until paterno retired and they brought in mostly new staff. the last five years they and ohio st have been the class of the conference. it's hard to keep great college football programs down for long. Over the last 5 years, the have been on top (he isn't stating anything other than they have turned around what a bad situation previous to that). But that is not the point he is making, the point of the comment is that teams can rebound.

jesus truffle. cutting out the first half of your post where you discuss their record over the last 10 years and then bolding and underlining 4 words doesn't make me look stupid, it makes you look ridiculous. I'm fully capable of reading what you wrote. You used a 10-year period, divided it to make your school look better, and then made a statement that looks crazy since OSU has won outright or shared the big ten title each of the last 5 years. OSU has been the class of the conference for the last 5 years (and more). PSU hasn't distinguished itself apart from the 2nd tier as among the class of the conference during any period of time. But again, his point wasn't that PSU wasn't the class of anything. The point was that periods of crappiness can be followed by periods of success. That declaring Michigan as a goner was short sighted.

Jon, you missed your 24hr cutoff which was at 12:55pm yesterday. You can make your picks after the clock expires though. Edit: Or not, just re-read the email. I for whatever reason, thought it was similar to the NFL draft, where when you miss your pick the draft continues, but you can still jump back in. Oops.

Soto has gotten 70% of the teams PA's at catcher. McCann has gotten 75% of the Braves.

Since I personally see Germany and Serbia as equals, I'm not sure that means anything anymore. Thats assuming they both advance.

what's your name, boy Gary Willard, Chicago (hooray for username originality)

I got down there at 5 am. Got back about 2 hours ago. Tons of pictures on my facebook for those so inclined.

I have used jersey101 for mlb, nfl, and nhl jerseys. I have a Toews Winter Classic (the name font is off on the back name plate) that I have worn literally 50 times in the past 3 months. I got an email from jersey101 that said while the site is down, that I should use http://www.tarajersey.com It looks to be exactly the same thing

Why would the home team have a momentum advantage? The road center must get set for the face off first. Then the home center comes in just before puck drop. So the home center doesn't have to start from a still motion, it is much more fluid. The word "momentum" is being used in the physical sense, not the emotional sense.

Just for the record, there is just one puck.

The White Sox need to get a new phone.

Joe West.

Whenever you want to take second Soriano, feel free.

Dana

Len was talking about the "Len and Bob fanclub" section.

Theriot double. Theriot steal. First team to score wins!

I cannot wait to see these attendance figures. Makeup game, on 3 days notice, on a weekday, at Pittsburgh, against a crappy Cub team.

Just looking at the current team, Theriot, Soto.

I'm assuming some of you peoples saw Vance representing?

You absolutely can get a no hitter while taking a loss. Ken Johnson pitched nine no hit innings as the home pitcher, gave up a run, and got credit for the no hitter. The issue is when a visiting pitcher throws 8 no hit innings, and the home teams doesn't need to bat in the 9th. These don't count under the current rules because the pitcher only throws 8 innings. The loss has nothing to do with it.

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You need to go to more games, or even watch on tv, as they often show this..... Tue 19 Aug 2008, Harden over Cueto, right ???? Fred, you're as sharp as ever.

You need to go to more games, or even watch on tv, as they often show this.....

Dotel made it fun last time.