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Well I get to watch 4 at-bats of this game thanks to ESPN's idiocy. So I got that going for me....

Yeah, this pisses me off when we do this. And what pisses me off more, is when people don't realize how bad of a play this is. Joe Morgan actually said, "and he was sac'd into position to SET UP THE HOME RUN." That doesn't even make sense. Come on Walk, drive him in. thank god i dont have to listen to Morgan tonight He was announcing the BoSox-NYY game. This game isn't on ESPN anywhere is it?

Wait did Dusty call that, or did Pierre do it? Either way who cares? You guys actually think Pierre was going to get a hit? Sure he MIGHT have gotten a hit. But I might have won a million dollars in the lottery.

Well we all know Pierre was going to make an out, so Saccing him makes sense.

Well.... he just wasted half of them on Cedeno, no? Reverse Psychology dude. :roll: :wink:

Cain (with the 6+ ERA) will only throw 8 pitches in the first. Book it.

It can't be fun to cover these misfits.

In some fairness, they gave out an extension to Hendry before this tank job. I don't think they should have ANYWAY, but no one knew it was this big of a mess when they extended Hendry. Now if they still extend Baker, I'm going down to Hendry's office with a baseball bat and/or a pitch fork.

25 pitches? Why is he regressing if he still aims to be back in May? I wouldn't be shocked if Miller AND Lee came back before Prior did. What the hell is going on.

At least Hendry won't sign em. Hopefully Nolasco and Pinto fail, then I won't feel as bad about giving them up.

Shoot me in the back of the head please.

More gems from Dusty: When has the bolded part happened since 2003 during Dusty's tenure? The collapse of 04? the crapola of 05? The abomination of 06? I don't doubt you've tried Dusty, you're just a moron and even though you're not as responsibile for this 06 performance, you're still one of the worst managers in MLB. Please just leave, if your best isn't good enough. I'll PAY for your flight back to the West Coast.

I assume that he didn't just say it in the paper. I assume that what he said "to the paper" was a paraphrase of what he told his team. If you think that there's zero chance of players taking something like that seriously, then why even have a manager? If your players respect you, I do believe they'll listen, and maybe even (gasp!) "try harder". It's a dangerous assumption to make. Many coaches berate players in private while not bashing them publicly. And besides, think about what the criticism is. It's not basketball or football where increased hustle makes an extraordinary difference. Increased concentration and commitment almost always make a difference. The Cubs concentration sucks, and has for years. That's why you see so many crappy outs on the basepaths and dumb plays in the field. The players are to blame, yes, but the majority of the blame goes to Dusty, IMO. EDIT: And how the heck do you know that increased hustle doesn't make a difference in baseball? That's nonsense. I don't buy that a coach ripping the team in platitudes is the difference between them losing a series and then going on a winning streak. And calling out a team in that nature is just as likely to make players press as it is to increase concentration and commitment. You can't hustle your way into hitting a line drive, or making a good throw to first. Again, I completely disagree. I think holding people accountable has an effect. It may not be as tangible as stats, but there is an effect. We've been down this road far too many times on this bd., but just b/c modern man hasn't figured out a way to measure something does not mean that it does not exist. I think you would admit that you and many others here tend to discard that which cannot be measured through stats. I disagree with that approach. Its provincial. I'm not saying this because there's no statistical backing, I'm speaking theoretically, like I told Soul. Holding people accountable has an effect, but it's not necessarily a positive one. And again, given the nature of baseball compared to other sports(this is why Phil Jackson comparisons are poor examples), I question whether such a calling out of players would be likely to have a positive effect, and even if it does I think the difference in performance is likely to be marginal. I think individuall calling out players by name could have a negative effect like Juan Pierre has a noodle arm, or Sammy isnt a team player, or Jones sucks. However to call out the entire team without mentioning a players name is a challenge to the pride of the group, and the group response will typically be cohesion, pride, and hopefully intensity and motivation.

Naw. We got DA BEARS starting in the fall!!! So you're looking forward to the inevitable Rex Grossman injury? No, I'm looking for a team I love to actually make the playoffs.

I'm on the hook for 2. Hopefully I get Woody. Edit: CRAP. If he comes back on the 16th of May, I get him for my first game. If he comes back on the 17th, I don't. CRAP.

Naw. We got DA BEARS starting in the fall!!!

2/4 with 2 runs scored and 3 RBI. Average up to .310, 7 BB's and 4K's on the year. Jones is much better so far.

I swore after that catch that I wouldn't say anything bad for the rest of the SF series. Damnit.

Or in this case, the rest of the summer.

The Cubs PWNNNN Barry. At least we are good at one thing.

And the dumbass San Fran fans cheer a K. I hope Barry breaks his knee in half.

Dusty?

IF you think he's never gonna have a shaky outing, Im not sure why. Not sure why you included the 12 Million in there either. He's been great all year. Just sounds like a smart ass comment because he gave up one of Hill's runs. sorry. he was awesome. the money spent on him should definitely have not been spent on a serviceable outfielder. Yea that's what I said. Wait a second that's not what I said at all. He's been great all year and actually earning his money. Sorry he gave up an ER for your boy. I don't think the money he spent on Eyre in anyway stopped Hendry from getting an outfielder. The money he spent on Rusch/Neifi/Jones could have easily gone to an outfielder. Clearly this is lost on you though. eyre's been fine, but he's not worth the money. he's gonna have to be unhittable to earn that kind of money pitching four innings a week. it has nothing to do w/ him giving up hill's run...when hill went back out for the 7th, i knew he was going to give up more runs. i will say that that's not how eyre should be used, so i guess i owe eyre a cyber apology. Well I don't think you owe Eyre a cyber apology, I just had no idea where that 12 million dollar comment came from. I was merely attempting to point out that Eyre is one of the few players actually earning his paycheck this year and commenting on the tone of your post.. Eh. Who cares. This team has sucked the will out of me to even argue anymore.

IF you think he's never gonna have a shaky outing, Im not sure why. Not sure why you included the 12 Million in there either. He's been great all year. Just sounds like a smart ass comment because he gave up one of Hill's runs. sorry. he was awesome. the money spent on him should definitely have not been spent on a serviceable outfielder. Yea that's what I said. Wait a second that's not what I said at all. He's been great all year and actually earning his money. Sorry he gave up an ER for your boy. I don't think the money he spent on Eyre in anyway stopped Hendry from getting an outfielder. The money he spent on Rusch/Neifi/Jones could have easily gone to an outfielder. Clearly this is lost on you though.

IF you think he's never gonna have a shaky outing, Im not sure why. Not sure why you included the 12 Million in there either. He's been great all year. Just sounds like a smart ass comment because he gave up one of Hill's runs.