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Ok, seriously. We aren't going to give up what the Phills want for Abreu. We just aren't. There are TWO players we could give up that they would take - Z, Prior. We won't do that. So could the Abreu trade proposals just stop, they are absolutely ridiculous on every level. And downright delusional on some levels. Marquis is not a #1 or #2, Neither is Jerome Williams. I just don't get what lala land Cubs fans are living in thinking we actually will trade stuff that the Phills would want for Abreu.

If so, sign him up. I'm sure he would go to NY, Arlington or retire, but the Cubs have some serious cash to spend and there are not many players available worthly of getting that cash. I realize there is no chance in hell of us signing him. if we can't get a trade for abreu, that's probably the best use of our money at this point. But I'd bet on him retiring instead. We can't even get crap assembled together to offer a trade for Bradley, anyone who thinks we're going to get Abreu should pass me their hallucinagenics.

Well can we play one of our redundant arms that Hendry has stockpiled in CF, or RF? :?

So the Score made some crap up again? What an absolute worthless radio station.

I'm starting to get less and less accepting of Hendry's offseason. :evil:

Harold should stick to evaluating baseball talent. http://www.annabenson.net sweet sassy molassy Anna Benson needs to go back to the trailer park that she came from. Complete trash. yea, i'm sure you'd kick her out of bed for eating crackers.

Fixed.

Correct. See Todd Walker. Loyal and Stupid.

Interest has been expressed. How much did Burnitz get last year? If Pie is asked for in trades for Huff, Pierre, etc.. the likelihood of Preston Wilson becomes more realistic. We expected better than Burnitz in RF last year. We all know he had handcuffs on last year, He doesn't have those same handcuffs this year. Let's be fair here.

Get Kearns for RF, Wilkerson/Bradley for CF (patterson + prospect(s)), Lugo for SS (maybe)and we're set. Even with Cedeno/Walker Wilkerson/Bradley Kearns Collectively that is significant improvement to last years lineup. Wilkerson Walker 2B Lee Ramirez Kearns Barrett Murton Cedeno SS or Wilkerson Lugo SS Lee Ramirez Kearns Barrett Murton Cedeno 2B or Lugo SS Walker 2B Lee Bradley Ramirez Kearns Barrett Murton etc. You can really play around with lineup Going in to 06 with Murton, Cedeno and Kearns is a pretty big leap of faith. Well that's why I really would like Lugo. :wink:

I think he'd be worth about 50 cents.

Get Kearns for RF, Wilkerson/Bradley for CF (patterson + prospect(s)), Lugo for SS (maybe)and we're set. Even with Cedeno/Walker Wilkerson/Bradley Kearns Collectively that is significant improvement to last years lineup. Wilkerson Walker 2B Lee Ramirez Kearns Barrett Murton Cedeno SS or Wilkerson Lugo SS Lee Ramirez Kearns Barrett Murton Cedeno 2B or Lugo SS Walker 2B Lee Bradley Ramirez Kearns Barrett Murton etc. You can really play around with lineup

Isn't that such a wierd sensation? I felt the exact same thing with Furcal. Two opposite emotions at the same time.

I'd do Mitre and Nolasco for Kearns. I like Kearns' upside alot.

Do it.

While my "buzz off" statement was hyperbole and I don't necessarily think that is what happened, my point is that we really don't know what did happen. Just having no reports about something is not necessarily the same thing as saying that it didn't happen. "Absence of proof is not proof of absence." I disagree that evaluating FA talent is the main part of his job. Hendry never markets himself, and, to my knowledge, neither does anyone else, that he is a good evaluator of FA talent. His main credentials are that he is a very good guy in getting things for trades. He is rarely fleeced and has often fleeced opposing teams. Badger, I don't know that the Sosa trade was that bad. Would the team have been better with Sosa than with Hairston, I don't know about that. Some have argued that he could have gotten more for Sosa, but I don't know that that makes this a "bad trade." You are correct about the Cruz trade and the Farnsworth trade (but the Cruz trade for what we got back was FAR worse). Finally: It is part of the beauty of baseball that we can discuss these things in the off-season. What I still want to stress is that this is all guess-work. To discuss them as "educated guesses" (as one poster pointed out) is fun, interesting and valid. Where I think we cross the line is when we start to give these "educated guesses" the apparent status of "fact" with statements like "Hendry did/did not go after Giles." A good argument can be made that he didn't, but there is really little evidence (much less "proof") that he did/did not. Well devaluing Sosa to the point where GM's knew they didn't have to offer ANYONE to get him was Hendry's mistake. Just as they are doing with Walker now. I don't get why they devalue certain players. As I said, all his great trades are with players who weren't devalued.

Pissed off? Happy? Dissappointed? Confused as to how to feel? What's the general consensus over there right now?

Please be true. We need to take away all of Hendry's "toolsy" players so he actually gets good ones. 8) i feel a little better. At least were not the only team having to suffer through a crappy offseason so far. All I need is Wilson, Jones, Encarnacion, and Burnitz to sign with other teams within the next week and we'll HAVE to get Huff, and Bradley/Wilkerson, perhaps Lugo.

Gammons didn't say that. He said Cubs need a 2b so Cedeno can play SS. I guess Walker doesn't count. :cry: a real big shame we did not go after Castillo. A really big shame we're hell bent on trading Walker.

Please be true. We need to take away all of Hendry's "toolsy" players so he actually gets good ones. 8)

you Cards fans should be relatively happy (like we should be about furcal) 5 guaranteed years to a Kerry Wood-alike with less stuff and equal injury-proness is probably not the brightest idea, which is why Jocketty probably didn't want to do it.

I agree. He seems to have rubbed the wrong people the wrong way since they signed him. Which is why I don't undersdand why the resigned him. Some team is going to get a steady if not spectacular 2nd. I bet auggiedoggy is happy somewhere out there in Cubland :D I love Walker. I always have. He kinda reminds me of Gracie a little bit. But he did have a big yapper that was going 24/7 last year.

Hendry has changed his approach this year, offering too much to Furcal, overpaying for Neifi, ignoring top RF help, ignoring Nomar, putting a for sale sign on Walker's neck, covetting Pierre, etc. etc. etc. If Hendry offered too much for Furcal, I wonder where that places Ned Colletti. I for one am glad Colletti was a moron and offered 13 freakin mill a year for a guy who performed his best in a contract year. :lol:

First I laughed out loud, and then I reflected on pathetic that is.

I think he's great at trades: The Good: Lee acquisition for a mediocre/bad Choi Ramirez/Lofton/Simon acquisition Karros/Grudz acquisition for freaking Hundley Nomar/Murton acquisition for crap Barrett acquisition (he was traded for correct?) Clement part of the acquisition (Willis was thrown in at the very end as a throw-in no one thought he'd be great) The Bad: Sosa trade Farnsworth trade Cruz trade So basically when Hendry devalues a player, the trades suck (pretty intuitive) and when he doesn't devalue them he fleeces opposing GM's, for the most part. I'd say he sucks at FA but is good at trading, making him an average to slightly above average GM. I think he just focuses too much on "toolsy" guys.