Fred Hornkohl

Post all star break, Prior had a 3.88 ERA, so you can stop claiming it was over 5.00 for the second half. Crimeny. The guy has a 3.24 career ERA, which would be one of the lowest career ERA's in post-1920's baseball. The one and only question mark to debate with Prior is health. Good catch, Tim. Prior had 12 quality starts out of 15 tries after the all-star break, compiling a 6-4 record, while the team was 8-7 in those 15 games. Except for his high walk rate, his line looks pretty good. Prior IP H R ER BB K HR PC BB/9 K/9 HR/9 WHIP ERA 07/14 - 10/02 92.7 87 43 40 37 111 14 1670 3.59 10.78 1.36 1.34 3.88 Prior averaged 6.18 innings and 111 pitchs per start. The one thing that jumped out at me..... of the 43 runs given up by Prior after the all star break, 14 of them were in the first inning.

Or, in honor of CT...... how 'bout The Tampa Bay Baby Seal Clubbers ?

.... but the rookies always seem to get tripped up just the same.

Sorry, no teams below the Mason-Dixon line allowed :wink: Hell, Bloomngton, IN is south of the Mason-Dixon line, isn't it ??

I thought it was how Baker used him that you couldn't stand. :wink: The heat of the moment does not help one's sense of proper perspective. :D One last, funny story about it, though. My now-wife thought his name was pronounced Knifey, and thus he became her favorite player. She was very dissapointed it was actually Neigh-fee, and promptly went back to complaining about the fact I spend so much time watching the Cubs and talking about them on NSBB. Here's hoping that we both get a life someday !! :wink: Fred, if it hasn't happened by now, I don't think there's much hope for us. :) [sigh]

I thought it was how Baker used him that you couldn't stand. :wink: The heat of the moment does not help one's sense of proper perspective. :D One last, funny story about it, though. My now-wife thought his name was pronounced Knifey, and thus he became her favorite player. She was very dissapointed it was actually Neigh-fee, and promptly went back to complaining about the fact I spend so much time watching the Cubs and talking about them on NSBB. Here's hoping that we both get a life someday !! :wink:

I've never kept track of scoring by inning before this last season, so I don't have any history to compare it to. I'll be real insterested to see how this plays out in the coming year. Is there something of a trend to this, or is it completely random ?

I thought it was how Baker used him that you couldn't stand. :wink:

No. The grand slam game was Sun 24 July 05. Wow, for some reason I always thought that homer came much later in the season. Me too. I thought mid August. If you had asked me yesterday, I would have thought the same thing. As the quirks of the schedule worked out, that game on 24 July was the last time we faced the Cardinals until 05 Sept.

No. The grand slam game was Sun 24 July 05.

As near as I can figure out, there was only 1 instance last season when Neifi Perez started 3 consecutive games when nobody was hurt. That was an 8 game stretch from 20 Aug (15 days after Nomar came back) until 24 Aug (when Ramirez went down). This occured during one of Perez's hot streaks, when he put up this line...... Perez AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 08/16 - 08/24 31 2 10 2 0 1 15 4 2 3 0.323 0.364 0.484 0.848

I only have this breakdown for the CUBS, so I can't really compare it to other teams for you. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Total CUBS 58 79 75 101 63 121 72 72 52 7 2 1 0 0 0 0 703 Opponents 91 88 61 71 115 65 74 85 53 0 7 4 0 0 0 0 714 That first inning was a killer many a game last year. Indeed !! CUBS are 26-9 when they score in the first inning,... 53-74 when they don't

Actually, Perez was in the middle of one of his hot streaks at the time. Perez AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS 07/10 - 09/07 162 15 55 17 1 2 80 19 6 10 0.340 0.363 0.494 0.857

I only have this breakdown for the CUBS, so I can't really compare it to other teams for you. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 Total CUBS 58 79 75 101 63 121 72 72 52 7 2 1 0 0 0 0 703 Opponents 91 88 61 71 115 65 74 85 53 0 7 4 0 0 0 0 714

Well you can't just let him sit in the bullpen when there isn't a save chance. He's got to get out and use him arm like any other pitcher every once in a while. I'm not advocating sitting him for long stretches. I'm talking about pitching him for a 2nd or 3rd day in a row when the Cubs are up by 5 going into the 9th. I seem to remember that happening often last year and it drives me crazy. That did not happen often. Below is a listing of the games that Ryan Dempster appeared in as a reliever. There were a total of 10 games in which he appeared that the CUBS won by more than 3 runs. (a typical non-save situation). In 7 of those 10 instances, Dempster was pitching on at least 4 days rest. The 01 Jun game vs. Los Angeles was a game started by Koronka, and as you might expect, that meant Baker had to go to the bullpen early and often. While it was the third consecutive game for Dempster and not a save situation, Dempster was the 5th relief pitcher used by the CUBS in the game. In the 24 July game at St Louis, Dempster entered the game in the 9th with a 4-3 lead, and proceeded to pick up a blown save and a win, as Neifi Perez hit a grand slam in the 10th. In the 02 Sept game at Pittsburgh, Dempster entered in the 8th inning with the score 4-3 in favor of the CUBS and was the beneficiary of 3 more CUBS runs in the 9th inning. I'm gonna have to bust you on that one. Teh Cobs have never scored 3 runs in the 9th, silly. :lol: Oh, yeah ??? :wink:

Well you can't just let him sit in the bullpen when there isn't a save chance. He's got to get out and use him arm like any other pitcher every once in a while. I'm not advocating sitting him for long stretches. I'm talking about pitching him for a 2nd or 3rd day in a row when the Cubs are up by 5 going into the 9th. I seem to remember that happening often last year and it drives me crazy. That did not happen often. Below is a listing of the games that Ryan Dempster appeared in as a reliever. There were a total of 10 games in which he appeared that the CUBS won by more than 3 runs. (a typical non-save situation). In 7 of those 10 instances, Dempster was pitching on at least 4 days rest. The 01 Jun game vs. Los Angeles was a game started by Koronka, and as you might expect, that meant Baker had to go to the bullpen early and often. While it was the third consecutive game for Dempster and not a save situation, Dempster was the 5th relief pitcher used by the CUBS in the game. In the 24 July game at St Louis, Dempster entered the game in the 9th with a 4-3 lead, and proceeded to pick up a blown save and a win, as Neifi Perez hit a grand slam in the 10th. In the 02 Sept game at Pittsburgh, Dempster entered in the 8th inning with the score 4-3 in favor of the CUBS and was the beneficiary of 3 more CUBS runs in the 9th inning. Gm# Date Opponent Score Starter 31 Mon 05/09 New York N 4- 7 Leicester 33 Wed 05/11 New York 4- 3 Prior 37 Tue 05/17 @ Pittsburgh N 4- 3 Prior 38 Wed 05/18 @ Pittsburgh 3- 2 Rusch 42 Mon 05/23 Houston N 4- 1 Rusch 43 Tue 05/24 Houston N 4- 2 Mitre 47 Sat 05/28 Colorado 5- 1 Rusch 49 Mon 05/30 @ Los Angeles N 5- 3 Maddux 50 Tue 05/31 @ Los Angeles N 2- 1 Zambrano 51 Wed 06/01 @ Los Angeles N 9- 5 Koronka 55 Sun 06/05 @ San Diego 4- 0 Zambrano 58 Wed 06/08 Toronto 2- 0 Mitre 60 Sat 06/11 Boston 7- 6 Zambrano 64 Wed 06/15 Florida 5-15 Maddux 68 Mon 06/20 @ Milwaukee N 5- 4 Maddux 69 Tue 06/21 @ Milwaukee N 4- 2 Williams 73 Sat 06/25 @ Chicago (AL) 6- 2 Maddux 74 Sun 06/26 @ Chicago (AL) 2- 0 Prior 75 Tue 06/28 Milwaukee N 2- 0 Zambrano 80 Sun 07/03 Washington 4- 5 Zambrano 84 Thu 07/07 @ Atlanta N 4- 9 Williams 85 Fri 07/08 @ Florida N 9- 6 Zambrano 88 Thu 07/14 Pittsburgh 5- 1 Prior 93 Tue 07/19 @ Cincinnati N 7- 3 Prior 95 Thu 07/21 @ Cincinnati 6- 9 Maddux 97 Sat 07/23 @ St. Louis 6- 5 Williams 98 Sun 07/24 @ St. Louis N 8- 4 Prior 99 Mon 07/25 San Francisco N 3- 2 Hill 101 Wed 07/27 San Francisco 4- 3 Zambrano 105 Sun 07/31 Arizona 6-13 Maddux 106 Tue 08/02 @ Philadelphia N 2- 1 Zambrano 109 Fri 08/05 @ New York N 5- 9 Hill 113 Tue 08/09 Cincinnati 3- 8 Prior 116 Fri 08/12 St. Louis 4- 1 Zambrano 118 Sun 08/14 St. Louis N 5- 4 Prior 120 Tue 08/16 @ Houston N 4- 1 Maddux 121 Wed 08/17 @ Houston N 4- 2 Zambrano 122 Fri 08/19 @ Colorado 5- 3 Prior 126 Tue 08/23 Atlanta N 10- 1 Williams 130 Sun 08/28 Florida 14- 3 Zambrano 132 Tue 08/30 Los Angeles N 6- 3 Prior 134 Fri 09/02 @ Pittsburgh N 7- 3 Maddux 136 Sun 09/04 @ Pittsburgh 2- 0 Williams 138 Tue 09/06 @ St. Louis N 5- 2 Rusch 139 Wed 09/07 @ St. Louis N 2- 1 Maddux 140 Thu 09/08 @ San Francisco N 5- 3 Zambrano 142 Sat 09/10 @ San Francisco 5- 2 Prior 143 Sun 09/11 @ San Francisco 3- 2 Rusch 145 Tue 09/13 Cincinnati N 4- 3 Zambrano 146 Wed 09/14 Cincinnati N 4- 7 Williams 148 Fri 09/16 St. Louis 5- 3 Rusch 152 Wed 09/21 @ Milwaukee N 6- 7 Prior 153 Thu 09/22 @ Milwaukee 3- 0 Maddux 154 Fri 09/23 Houston 5- 4 Rusch 156 Sun 09/25 Houston 3- 2 Williams 159 Thu 09/29 @ Houston N 3- 2 Rusch 160 Fri 09/30 @ Houston N 4- 3 Zambrano

Pretty much. He was a regular for a couple of years early in his career with the Giants, but a utility player for most of his career. He played mainly SS and 3B but also played some at 1B, 2B, OF, and C. Yes, Jose was a lot like Neifi Perez, only with less power. He became a utility player early on because it was just too easy to find someone better.

I was wondering the same thing. I got Jose's autograph when the Pirates were in St Louis back in '66. That's when they used Birch Trees for paper right? Stone tablets, 'Cuse, stone tablets.

I was wondering the same thing. I got Jose's autograph when the Pirates were in St Louis back in '66.

38 That's not even close to right... You're quite right. Somehow, I totally forgot about March. Make that 69 days. :oops:

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Aww come on! Take it for the team! No pictures..... Please !!

I lived in Charlotte for a couple of years. The fans there didn't have any problem with the Hornets, it was all about their owner. If he would have sold the team, they would have flourished there. It's true that North Carolina has a lot of Braves fans. But it was also true that NC had a lot of Falcons fans before the Panthers came into being, and that didn't seem to hurt the Panthers any. I truly believe that the Charlotte area could support MLB, and better than Miami did, at that. edit: and I sure would love to go back to Charlotte once a year to see the CUBS play !!!

Peter Angelos can go take a flying leap at the moon. He's got 1 vote out of 30. Charlotte is 440 miles from Baltimore. If only it worked that way. He somehow seems to strongarm his way to a bit better than a 1 in 30 vote. Charlotte is not in "that area". Angelos has nothing to say about it.

Peter Angelos can go take a flying leap at the moon. He's got 1 vote out of 30. Charlotte is 440 miles from Baltimore.