Fred Hornkohl

Let the congreation say AMEN !

Details, details, details !!! Let's play ball, already !!

I am so ready for baseball !! "It's been a long cold lonely winter......"

Actually it was in 4.2 innings and the reason his pitch count got so high is that Dusty was trying to let him get through 5 so he would qualify for the win. Whether Dusty should have been that concerned about having Z qualify for the win is arguable but it gives a little more perspective than just saying he pitched 5.2 as part of an opening day blow-out. I think when Dusty finally pulled him in the 5th the D-Backs had actually made it interesting and the Cubs then pulled away again later in the game. The score was 9-3 CUBS when Zambrano was pulled in the 5th inning.

Imagine that. Nine shortstops picked ahead of Neifi Perez ? :shock:

I'd be interested to see if Hairston's OBP last season was inflated by his HBPs. He'd definitely be a better option than Neifi. AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Hairston 380 51 98 24 2 4 138 30 31 46 0.258 0.332 0.363 0.695 If you subtract out Hairston's 11 HBP's, that OBP drops to .314.

Ah, but c'mon, I was one year off. That's not so bad off the top of my head. I should have remembered though, that 1909 was the great Wagner v. Cobb series. . As I'm sure you are well aware, Cobb and Wagner were not only amazing players, but they lead two amazing teams. Cobb's Tigers had the second best record in the fledgling American League, being aced out by the Yankees by a mere 4 games total over 24 seasons.... 1905 thru 1928 World Series team W L pct PA W L Detroit Tigers 1910 1725 0.525 3 0 3 Honus Wagner's Pirates had an outsanding .570 winning percentage during his time there, being bested only by the Chicago CUBS and the New York Giants, who were clearly the class of baseball in those early years. 1900 thru 1917 World Series team W L pct PA W L Pittsburgh Pirates 1538 1161 0.570 2 1 1

Then you must have changed your view, because two pages ago you were agreeing with Tree that Cobb would have "done nothing" today and that not a single player before 1940 could play in the bigs today. I said that if you took the old players as they were and didn't give them any of the amenities the players have now that they would be unlikely to succeed. My last point was that if you gave Cobb or Ruth the amenities that players have now, that they would still be All Stars. The same goes for taking everything away from the best players of today, that they would be All Stars back in the 1920's if they didn't have everything they do have. Again, I don't buy that. If you plucked Mr. Cobb from 1909 playing the World Series against the Cubs and gave him a bat and threw him up to the plate in a 2006 MLB game, you think he wouldn't be able to hit the pitcher? Do you think he'd just sit there and shake and pee his pants and say, OH MY GOD!!!! The speed of the game has not evolved that much. Humans throw just as hard now as they did then, and ran just as fast. Just a minor point of information, Ole Miss. After losing the World Series to the CUBS in '07 & '08, Ty Cobb and his Tigers played and lost the 1909 Series to the Pittsburgh Pirates. The CUBS, even though they won 104 games, finished 6 games behind world champion Bucs.

Bite your tongue !!!

With all that speed, stretching doubles into triples, he oughta be hitting at the top of the order !! :wink:

I had Carlos down for 1 walk. AB R H 2B 3B HR TB RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS Patterson 451 47 97 15 3 13 157 33 23 117 0.215 0.254 0.348 0.602 Zambrano 80 8 24 6 2 1 37 6 1 23 0.300 0.309 0.463 0.771 Wouldn't he make a fine right fielder 4 days out of 5 ??

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Well, Barry, who's to say you couldn't retire today and then we could all start forgetting you right now ?? "Never put off until tonmorrow.............

Hey.... just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get me !! :wink:

Oy !! Such a year I should have !!

Is there any interest in an NSBB outing to PNC Park for the 28-30 August series ??

Roughly, yeah. Well, as Sen. Everett Dirksen said back in the 50's..... "A million dollars here, a million dollars there, pretty soon you're talking about real money"

If I comprehend all of this correctly, then, we are right around $100 million, no?

Interesting to note that there are only 23 players listed, and Neifi Perez only shows a salary of $1 million. Where's CPatterson20 TransmogrifiedTiger when you need him ??

Available outside of Wrigley Field on any game day......... http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b137/Hornkohl/CUBS021.jpg

Very true..so, why isnt wilsons number retired? I don't think Hack Wilson had a number.

Just in case anybody missed the game......... BOTTOM OF THE SECOND INNING Burnitz flied out to right field Ramirez popped out to second base Walker doubled to left center field Hollandsworth singled to center field, Walker scoring Hollandsworth steals second base Barrett struck out (called) 1 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base TOP OF THE FOURTH INNING Hall homered to left center field Lee flied out to right field Overbay flied out to center field Jenkins struck out swinging 1 runs, 1 hits, 0 errors, 0 men left on base BOTTOM OF THE FOURTH INNING Lee grounded out to second, 4-3 Burnitz homered to right field Ramirez struck out swinging Walker doubled off the right field wall Hollandsworth flied out to left field 1 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base TOP OF THE SEVENTH INNING Rusch in to pitch for the CUBS Overbay homered to left field Jenkins struck out swinging Hardy struck out swinging Moeller grounded an IF single to shortstop Moeller awarded second base on a balk Helms, pinch hitting for Sheets, grounded out to short, 6-3 1 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 1 men left on base TOP OF THE EIGHTH INNING Wuertz in to pitch for the CUBS Clark blooped a single to center field Weeks sacrificed to third, 5-4, Clark to second Hall grounded out to second, 4-3, Clark to third Lee walked (intentionally) Ohman in to pitch for the CUBS Overbay struck out swinging 1 runs, 0 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base BOTTOM OF THE NINTH INNING Santana in to pitch (9th), Miller in to catch (8th) for Milwaukee Burnitz walked Ramirez popped out to second base Walker singled to center field, Burnitz to second Hollandsworth singled to left field, Burnitz scored 1 runs, 2 hits, 0 errors, 2 men left on base 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E Milwaukee 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 0 2 5 0 CUBS 0 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 3 8 0 CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! CUBS WIN !! W: Novoa (2-1) S: none L: Santana (1-2) T: 2:39 A: 38,846 Home runs: Milwaukee: Hall (12), Overbay (10), CUBS: Burnitz (13) pitcher IP H R ER BB K HR PIT Wood 6.0 2 1 1 2 9 1 91 Rusch 1.0 2 1 1 0 2 1 26 Wuertz 0.7 1 0 0 1 0 0 11 Ohman 0.3 0 0 0 0 1 0 03 Novoa 1.0 0 0 0 1 3 0 21

Slugging percent is TB/AB.

With each passing year, I listen to that tune and it strikes a little bit closer to home. Go CUBS !!

Found this article in the Charlotte Observer Sports Section. Didn't find anything in the business section, tho.