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Everything posted by dew1679666265
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This free agent class is really bad. There are a few nice pitchers and outfielders available (Crawford, De La Rosa, Francis, Bonderman, etc) but nothing on the infield outside of Cantu, Dunn and maybe Maicer Izturis. The best FA second baseman is either Jose Lopez or Aki Iwamura. There's a chance one of Rollins or Reyes could be available and, if either is, I'd change my mind about offering DLee arbitration. However, it's unlikely either of them are available and that leaves not much of anything I'd be interested in.
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With Wood there was a significant chance he wouldn't pitch at all in a season. With DLee there's a chance, but it's nowhere near the level it was for Wood. The injuries and the price tag on Wood make the two not very comparable.
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Such as? If we were likely to be good next year or if there were very good free agents available at positions of need for us in this offseason, I'd agree with you. But if we pay $12 million in arbitration to DLee, we might miss out on signing Jorge Cantu or giving 3-4 years to Adam Dunn. The positive to offering DLee arbitration is that if he doesn't accept and somebody signs him, we get more in return (and possibly significantly more if he ends up a Type A) than if we trade him at his lowest value and if he accepts, he has the potential to be better than Cantu if he rebounds and we might get even more at next year's deadline. Since we're not going to be competitive next year (most likely), we don't have any first base prospects in the system and there aren't any impact first baseman on the FA market, I don't see a problem with keeping DLee and offering him arby. Unless we get a good offer at the deadline, that is.
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Wood was cheaper in a raw dollar evaluation, but $10 million to a closer is a whole lot more than $10-12 million for a first baseman. Also, Wood had significant injury concerns and may have raised red flags for the Cubs as to whether he'd be able to pitch the next season. DLee may be washed up and may not be productive, but he also might have a resurgence next year. There aren't really significant injury concerns for DLee (other than him being mid-30s) like there were for Wood and paying $12 million for a first baseman on a one-year deal isn't that extreme, whereas paying $10 million for an oft-injured closer is.
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If he accepts arbitration then you just keep him for another year. He wouldn't be blocking anybody in the system and there's not any big-time free agents available this offseason. I wouldn't offer him a multi-year deal or anything, but considering we're unlikely to be competitive next year, taking a chance that somebody will sign him and we get picks in return is reasonable, I think. It's better than getting a mediocre or worse package for him at his lowest value. He might start hitting again next year.
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Unless Hendry pulls some magic or something, I'd almost rather just keep DLee. We probably won't get much for him now and he should be at least a Type B or maybe even a Type A free agent after the year (or am I crazy?). If he ends up a Type A, we probably would get more value offering him arbitration and letting him walk.
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They have a 7th from the Rams for Kevin Payne though. Well worth the risk, IMO. Plus 7th round picks are mostly worthless. And are often a dime a dozen. It seems like the Titans have 2-3 a year at least.
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Paprika or Cyan? http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/images/5/5e/Final_Fantasy_VI_Cyan.jpg Nice.
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Yeah, he's not done much though. He's 25 and has pitched well in the minors and poorly in the majors (in short stints). Not a bust yet, but not a guy to get real excited about either. but the point is, he was a valuable commodity when traded. A very valuable one (just like Salty). At minimum, the Braves gave up 2 highly touted prospects and 2 different guys that turned out to be quality major leaguers (or maybe really good major leaguers). that's a lot. That's true, he was likely pretty valuable at the time. I was surprised to see them offer that much for Teix, especially considering there was plenty of doubt whether they'd be able to re-sign him.
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Yeah, he's not done much though. He's 25 and has pitched well in the minors and poorly in the majors (in short stints). Not a bust yet, but not a guy to get real excited about either.
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I knew Feliz and Andrus were highly rated, but at the time, I thought Salty was the best piece the Rangers got.
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Honestly, the trade to acquire Teix wasn't nearly as bad as trading away Teix for Casey Kotchman and Steve Marek. That was a simply abysmal trade and it was Wren's. If the Teix deal ends up basically being Feliz and Andrus for a year of Teix (and first dibs at re-signing him), that's not an awful trade. oh, no doubt wren's trade was worse. and the Salty/Andrus/Feliz/etc for Teix deal wasn't "awful" for Atlanta, but that's not really the standard Atlanta set pre-Wren. It certainly wasn't one of Schuerholz's shining moments. However, if they could have gotten Teix signed long term, it's a decent deal for them. They couldn't, though, which made it a bad trade and one of Schuerholz's worst. It was just piling on, then, that Wren got Kotchman and Marek for Teix a year later.
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Honestly, the trade to acquire Teix wasn't nearly as bad as trading away Teix for Casey Kotchman and Steve Marek. That was a simply abysmal trade and it was Wren's. If the Teix deal ends up basically being Feliz and Andrus for a year of Teix (and first dibs at re-signing him), that's not an awful trade.
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Wikipedia says Wren took over after the 2007 season and the Teix deal was made on July 31, 2007 (according to B-R).
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Yeah, I get looking to trade a guy the organization is fed up with, but I don't get trading the guy and a decent young lefty for a 33-year-old mediocre SS having a career year (with a .296 OBP), an intriguing short lefty and a SS in A+ with a .291 wOBA.
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How's Saltalamacchia working out for the Rangers? Not well, but Neftali Feliz and Elvis Andrus are doing very, very well. Casey Kotchman also has a .670 OPS as a 27-year-old first baseman for the Mariners right now.
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Fangraphs' analysis of the trade from each perspective: Braves Jays
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Yeah, Frank Wren has been very unimpressive since taking over. Schuerholz just about always made great trades, Wren has acquired Kotchman for Teixeira, Jesse Chavez for Rafael Soriano, Melky Cabrera for Javy Vazquez and now Alex Gonzalez for Yunel Escobar.
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Even if both Reyes and Escobar end up busting, the return the Braves got back (especially Gonzalez) is just bad. Collins intrigues me, but the Braves' offensive help for the second half of the year is a guy with a .296 OBP who Zips projects to hit 6 more home runs this year and have a .414 SLG. Even if it's not a massive steal for the Jays as it appears now, I don't see how it's not a bad trade for the Braves (since Gonzalez likely won't be very good the rest of the year).
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Interesting. I hadn't heard a reason why, only "personal reasons." This is a really strange time to be stepping down.
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This is the second trade at the deadline this year where the acquiring team has significantly overpaid to upgrade a position. Positive sign for trying to get max value for Lilly, Kosuke, etc.
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Bad for Vandy. I heard the idea that they should look at Fulmer to fill the position and I think it's a great idea.
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This strikes me as a really, really bad trade by Atlanta. Gonzalez is 33 and has a .296 OBP. Even with a SLG more than 200 points better than Yunel's, Gonzalez is only a 2.4 WAR player while Yunel is a 1.0 WAR player so far. If Yunel starts hitting for any sort of power again (Zips projects more than a 100 point increase in the second half), he'll likely be as valuable or moreso than Gonzalez. Tim Collins' numbers look intriguing, but I like Reyes a lot too still. Pastornicky doesn't look very impressive at all.
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Re: Five best and worst MLB broadcasting teams
dew1679666265 replied to Formerly Snayke's topic in General Baseball Talk
if joe morgan ever quits, jon miller and orel herscheiser (i'm sure i spelled that wrong) would be a solid team I actually really like Jon Miller. He's pretty easily one of my favorite national broadcasters. Orel's solid as well and I enjoy Dave O'Brien and Gary Thorne when they do football/baseball games on ESPN. -
Re: Five best and worst MLB broadcasting teams
dew1679666265 replied to Formerly Snayke's topic in General Baseball Talk
I pretty much completely agree with this.