I did say if completely healthy. If Pedro were to ever stay healthy, he and Johan would be one hell of a 1-2 punch. There's a difference between being not healthy and too old. Pedro is not good now because he is too old...injuries are just a part of it. If you could take the best of all of these pitchers, say Pedro from five years ago and Santana from a couple of years ago, they would be head-and-shoulders above the others. Right now they do not belong as a duo. If you want to assume health, I think that Harden is the best pitcher of the entire group. I have thought so for the past few years. His only downfall has been health. Coupled with Z, I think they are the best combo with Haren/Webb a close second.