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  1. Taking a shot at the end zone on 4th and 1 was going for the jugular. Moose has the Packers' throats in his hands, then had it slip out of his hands. How far were we for a field goal? ~46 yards.
  2. I've never seen it called before in my life. Now I've seen it twice in one game.
  3. Taking a shot at the end zone on 4th and 1 was going for the jugular. Moose has the Packers' throats in his hands, then had it slip out of his hands.
  4. Well, the Packers are making this a bit too interesting for my tastes.
  5. Huh? That came out badly. Change it to: "Merry Christmas from the Bears' special teams, Packers fans! Have some of your dignity back. :D"
  6. Merry Christmas, here's some dignity Packer fans.
  7. He got hit right after throwing that pass.
  8. WOW what the hell does that mean? :D lol http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=incontrovertible :D :D :D
  9. I'm going with no incontrovertible video evidence on this one.
  10. Isn't Rex due another ACL tear? I see Favre's back to drinking and popping painkillers.
  11. Interesting. So there were no 20 game winners with a >3.80 ERA from 1986-1990 and 1992-1996? Hm. I don't have much to add to this post, but just found the results interesting.
  12. Oh! Oh! I found more! 2001, for example: Tim Hudson: 20-6, 4.14 ERA David Wells: 20-8, 4.11 ERA Darryl Kile: 20-9, 3.91 ERA
  13. Show me the last pitcher who had a mediocre season and won 20 games. Pitching very well is a pre-req for winning 20 games. Russ Ortiz in 2003. Damnit, ok show me the last one before him. Does Andy Pettitte in 2003 count? How about in 2000, when he had 19 wins? 1996?
  14. I'm hoping that this is the result of a telephone game-like situation gone out of control. As in... Jim Hendry to Assistant GM: I asked the Orioles about Tejada and they said that they'd trade him only for Prior. I told them I'd only do that trade if they threw in Erik Bedard, Daniel Cabrera, Nick Markakis, Adam Loewen, JJ Johnson, and Hayden Penn. Assistant GM to Intern: Jimbo said that he'd trade Prior for Tejada, Bedard, and prospects. Intern to Ken Rosenthal: Jim Hendry said he'd trade Prior for Tejada and some other dudes...I dunno who they were. Ken Rosenthal in his article: Jim Hendry would trade Mark Prior for Miguel Tejada! Journalists who rip off Rosenthal's article: Jim Hendry is deadset on trading Prior for Tejada! Journalists who rip off of each other: Jim Hendry is close to dealing Mark Prior for Miguel Tejada...purple monkey dishwasher!
  15. Needless to say, I'm incredibly thankful the Orioles are being quite greedy in this whole process. Look, I like Tejada and think he would be an automatic upgrade over what we currently have at SS. He'll produce nicely in this lineup and his contract is reasonable. I have no problem with Hendry making a move to acquire him. But...he's not the kind of bat that would turn this offense into a juggernaut for the next few years. He's not a Manny Ramirez, a Miguel Cabrera, or an Albert Pujols. Heck, he's not even a Bobby Abreu or a Lance Bekman. As it's been said, Tejada would make a solid 5th hitter. I don't think he'll out-produce Aramis Ramirez next season and I think there's a reasonable chance that Derrek Lee out-produces Tejada, as well. If the Cubs are going to trade Prior, my hope would be that it would be for some one who could make this team an offensive force. I don't see that in Tejada. I'm also worried that Tejada's production and range will continue to decline over the length of his contract. If he has to move from SS because his range has taken a nosedive, then his value will go flying out the window. I really do hope that if the Cubs trade Prior to the Orioles that they get some worthwhile prospects from the Orioles. Trading Prior for just Tejada and Bedard would be a mistake, imo. At least some decent prospects would make it suck less.
  16. You take a 130 mph line drive off your pitching arm and get upended by Marcus Giles on the basepaths...all of a sudden you're injury-prone. Come on, painting Mark Prior like he's some sort of brittle and injury-prone never will be is an absolute mistake. As far as I'm concerned, it's a miracle he actually came back a month after taking that line drive off his pitching arm. Heck, when I saw it, I legitimately thought that his pitching career could well have been over at that point. If anything, that showed me his ability to recover from injury is pretty darn good. Something tells me there isn't any pitcher out there who could take a shot like that to his pitching arm and not get injured.
  17. Zambrano is, but Prior is not. When did Prior leave Boras? I could have sworn Prior didn't have Boras as his agent. Let me do some digging.
  18. The Wood contract was handed out knowing that Wood has an established history of injuries and that there was a good chance that he would see time on the DL during that contract. Sosa, on the other hand, had so much going into that contract and the way it all played out that I really don't think many people saw it coming, especially given how the last offseason went. Personally, I wanted to trade Sosa while his value was at its highest, but that's in the past. Also, if they don't want to remain in Chicago, then I would hope that the myth of players wanting to play for Dusty Baker since he's such a great player's manager would be shattered once and for all. If he can't keep his top two aces happy, then who the heck does he keep happy? Is it just the crappy washed up veterans who had no value to begin with? This team better not give The Maddux Treatment to Prior or Zambrano, or else I seriously will give thought to giving up on the Cubs.
  19. BINGO I don't advacate the trading of Z or Prior, but that is a very realistic point. Remember not trading Sammy in 01 I think? Big mistake. Hindsight is always 20/20. That is seriously financial irresponsibility on the Cubs' behalf, especially considering the contracts they just handed out to Jock, Eyre, and Howry.
  20. A good number of reasons, in my mind: 1) The Cubs already have a guy who can play SS halfway decently in Ronnie Cedeno. Even if Cedeno doesn't turn out to be anything special with the bat, he still has always been a good defensive guy. Plus he's cheap. If his bat comes around, all the better. 2) Tejada is past his prime years and will be entering a decline in the near future. He might be the top SS in baseball who plays SS...but that's not saying a lot considering the quality of shortstops that are out there. It's like being the tallest midget. 3) Prior is one of the top young pitchers in baseball; no one can dispute this. The Cubs will have him under control until the 2008 offseason. He will be due money, but if this organization sees the raises he'll be due in arbitration as incentive to trade him because of salary considerations, then they shouldn't have thrown around bad contracts for guys like Neifi and Jock. 4) The talent and ceiling dropoff from Prior to Tejada is noticeable enough in terms of production that trading Prior for Tejada straight up would be a mistake for the Cubs. Do you think Tejada is going to win another MVP? How about Prior's chances at winning a couple of Cy Youngs? 5) Prior is not injury-prone, despite what the lazy idiots who don't follow the Cubs say. Frankly, I'm impressed that he wasn't finished for the season when he took that line drive off his pitching arm. And if it turns out that Prior may have some permanent damage that the Cubs are telling no one about, why the heck did they continue to trot him out there after he got drilled?! Wouldn't that have just exacerbated the problem??? Then again, given the way this organization handled Wood this past season, no length of idiocy surprises me any more with these people.
  21. Cubs Get: Harden, Tejada, Bedard, cash, prospects Orioles Get: Prior and Zito Athletics Get: A lot of really good prospects likely involving Rich Hill and Nick Markakis That I could live with. Oh come on, that's just silly. As is trading Prior straight up for Tejada, imo. Seriously, this is borderline ridiculous. I feel like Jim Hendry secretly lost a bet with Jim Bowden, allowing Bowden to run the Cubs' 2006 offseason.
  22. Cubs Get: Harden, Tejada, Bedard, cash, prospects Orioles Get: Prior and Zito Athletics Get: A lot of really good prospects likely involving Rich Hill and Nick Markakis That I could live with.
  23. The official report: This made me feel physically ill.
  24. I'm debating whether or not I'm more bitter about Hendry missing out on Tejada or Vlad, because Tejada would have been a bigger upgrade over AGonz than Vlad would have been over Alou, but Vlad is the better overall player. Tough call. I'm going to go break something, brb.
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