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Somewhere, Bruce Froemming smiles while Milt Pappas throws a chair at his TV.

I'll go ahead and predict a Jason Donald BB followed by a Trevor Crowe HR.

Done.

Gorzelanny has actually been one of the best pitchers on the Cubs this season. Moreover, he's only got a little over 2 years of ML service time, meaning he'll be cheap and under the Cubs' control for awhile. I like that the Cubs are willing to sell high on someone, but at the same time, we're talking about a guy who should bring back more than a decent setup man. So, here's an idea. Rather than trade Gorzelanny for a relief pitcher, why not move him into relief, and then move him back to starter next season if Lilly leaves town?

Some of the other mods will be handling this stuff for the next few days. Play nice.

Box Scores Iowa lost 5-3 Box Score CF S. Fuld 0/3, R, BB, K SS D. Barney 1/4 3B C. Tracy 3/4, 2B (6), RBI RF B. Snyder 0/2, 2 BB, K, SB (6) SP T. Diamond 6 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, WP, 10-3 GO-FO RP J. Samardzija 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2-1 GO-FO RP A. Cashner 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 2-0 GO-FO RP B. Parker 0.2 IP, 2 H, 4 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 1 HR, 0-1 GO-FO Tennessee won 3-0 Box Score CF T. Campana 1/5, RBI, 2 K, CS (8) SS M. Gonzalez 1/5, R, 2 K LF-RF B. Guyer 0/5, 3 K 1B B. Lalli 2/3, RBI, BB, K RF M. Spencer 1/4, 2B (4) 3B J. Vitters 1/3, R, BB DH S. Clevenger 1/3, BB SP HW Chen 6.2 IP, 6 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 4 K, 4-8 GO-FO RP D. Cales 1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 1-1 GO-FO Daytona lost 5-4 Box Score CF B. Jackson 0/4, 3 K, HBP 2B DJ LeMahieu 2/5, PO 3B R. Flaherty 3/5 C M. Brenly 3/4, RBI, K, PB (3) RF S. Borges 1/4, R, HR (2), 3 RBI, 2 K SS J. Lake 1/3, K, HBP, PO SP C. Rusin 4.2 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 2 HR, 8-3 GO-FO RP A. Shafer 3.1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 1-4 GO-FO - 1.18 ERA, 9 BB/39 K in 38 innings Peoria lost 3-2 in 12 innings Box Score SS HJ Lee 0/4, R, BB, E (17, fielding) CF L. Watkins 0/2, 2 BB, 2 K 2B M. Cerda 0/4, RBI, K 1B G. Rohan 2/5 DH J. Bour 0/4, BB, 2 K RF JH Ha 1/4, HR (1), RBI SP N. Struck 5.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 3 K, 4-8 GO-FO RP R. Morla 2.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 4-1 GO-FO RP L. Suarez 2 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, 1-1 GO-FO - 2.08 ERA, 8 BB/24 K in 21.2 innings DSL Cubs 1 won 7-4 on opening day Box Score CF O. Zapata 2/5, R, RBI, CS (1) - 17-years old SS G. Amaya 0/3, RBI, BB, 2 K, E (1, fielding) - 17-years old 1B G. Jimenez 1/4, R, SB (1) - 16-years old 2B Je. Rodriguez 3/3, R, RBI, E (1, missed catch) - 18-years old SP Y. Sanchez 5 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 1 K, WP, 4-9 GO-FO - 19-years old DSL Cubs 2 won 4-3 on opening day Box Score SS M. Hernandez 4/5, 2B (1), K - 17-years old 2B Gr. Gonzalez 2/4, R, RBI, SB (1) - 19-years old RF D. Arcila 1/4, K, outfield assist at second base - 17-years old 3B J. Altagracia 1/5, 2B (1), RBI, K - 17-years old C B. Inoa 1/4, 2B (1), BB, 2 K, 2 E (pickoff, throw) - 19-years old (His first name is Brain...not Brian, Brain.) CF Ed. Gonzalez 2/4, 2 R, 2B (1), RBI, K SP A. Paulino 4 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 5 K, HR, 5-1 GO-FO - 18-years old OVERALL: 3-3

Report on the Peoria game.

Plus, that deferred money can come back to haunt you. Cripes, the Rangers still owe Mickey Tettleton $1.4m.

BA's latest mock: They're beating this drum, but as much as I like this pick, it just leaves me scratching my head considering the Cubs usually don't draft high school players with high picks.

OM NOM NOM NOM!

Box Scores Iowa lost 6-5 Box Score CF S. Fuld 0/4, BB, R, SB (5) SS D. Barney 3/5, K 3B C. Tracy 1/5, 2 R, 2B (5), K LF J. Dubois 1/3, 2 BB, R, RBI, K 1B M. Hoffpauir 0/2, K, Ejected in 4th 1B B. LaHair 0/2, BB, R, RBI, K RF B. Snyder 0/3, BB, K C C. Robinson 0/3, RBI, 2 K 2B M. Camp 0/2, BB, SB (5), HBP SP JR Mathes 5 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2/2 K/BB, HR, 11-1 GO-FO, E (2, throw) RP J. Gaub 2 scoreless, 1 H, 3/1 K/BB, 2-0 GO-FO RP B. Schlitter 1.2 IP, 2 H, 2 ER, 3/0 K/BB, HR, 2-0 GO-FO Tennessee lost 6-1 Box Score RF T. Thomas 0/4, 2 K, Assist (Home) 2B M. Smith 1/3, BB, K LF T. Wright 0/4, 3 K 1B R. Canzler 1/4, 2B (7), 3 K, 2 E (5, fielding, throw) 3B J. Vitters 0/4, K C S. Clevenger 1/4, RBI, 2B (7), K, E (2, throw) SS N. Samson 0/4, 2 K CF M. Gonzalez 1/3, K SP C. Carpenter 3 IP, 5 H, 4 R, 2 ER, 3/3 K/BB, WP, 3-0 GO-FO RP A. Maestri 3 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 2/0 K/BB, 6-1 GO-FO RP J. Muyco 1 scoreless, 0 H, 1/1 K/BB, 1-1 GO-FO RP D. Cales 1 scoreless, 1 H, 2-1 GO-FO Daytona won 4-3 in the 10th Box Score CF B. Jackson 0/4, BB, K 3B DJ LeMahieu 2/5, RBI, K SS R. Flaherty 2/4, BB, 2 R, 2B (9) 1B R. Ridling 3/4, BB, 2 RBI, 2B (7) RF K. Burke 1/4, R, 2 K DH J. Opitz 1/4, 2B (6), K C M. Brenly 0/4, 2 K LF J. Valdez 1/3, R, K, SB (1), PO (2B), HBP SP C. Archer 6 scoreless, 1 H, 8/1 K/BB, 6-4 GO-FO RP J. Beliveau 1.2 perfect, 2/0 K/BB, 1-2 GO-FO RP D. Patton .1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0-1 GO-FO RP L. Sommer 2 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 1/1 K/BB, 2-2 GO-FO Peoria won 10-4 Box Score SS HJ Lee 1/4, 2 R, 2B (10), K 2B L. Watkins 0/4, R, K 3B M. Cerda 0/4, BB, R, RBI, K, E (8, throw) 1B J. Bour 2/5, R, 3 RBI, 2B (13), K LF DJ Fitzgerald 1/2, 2 BB, 2 R RF JH Ha 1/3, R, RBI DH C. Thomas 1/3, BB, R, 2 RBI, HR (2) SP R. Whitenack 5 IP, 2 H, 3 ER, 2/2 K/BB, WP, 8-2 GO-FO RP Y. Gonzalez 1 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1-2 GO-FO RP J. Latham 1 scoreless, 0 H, 2/1 K/BB OVERALL: 2-2

...and is still working on a changeup...and has experience as a reliever with TCU...and would likely be behind Marmol, Marshall, and whoever in the rotation moves to the bullpen...hell, throw Grabow and Howry into that mix while you're at it... This team doesn't need yet another relief pitcher. The only problem with the bullpen is that we have a manager who is wholly incompetent in using it. I feel like we're back to the days when the Cubs needed to Dusty-proof the 25 man so he wouldn't lead off Lenny Harris every freaking day.

Now he knows our pain. Link

Eh, it's not that bad either. He'll be okay. Jeff Baker, on the other hand...yeah, that's bad.

These words make very little sense. I say we move John Gaub and Blake Parker to the rotation. We need to know what they can do as starters because these kids are young kids. I'd hate to know that they couldn't come up here because we had a need for our rotation.

Mathes can't be any worse than Grabow at this point.

I don't even think they know what they're doing.

Stop feeding the troll.

Box Scores Iowa lost 8-5 Box Score CF S. Fuld 2/4, BB, K, SB (4) 2B B. Scales 0/3, 2 BB 3B C. Tracy 2/4 1B M. Hoffpauir 0/4, K, E (3, throw) RF B. Snyder 1/3, BB, 2 R, RBI, HR (7) DH B. LaHair 1/4, R, 2B (11) C C. Robinson 0/3, RBI, K LF J. Adduci 1/4, R, SB (8) SS M. Camp 1/2, 2 BB, R, RBI, 3B (1) SP J. Jackson 4 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 5/1 K/BB, HBP, 2-4 GO-FO RP J. Berg 2.1 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 1/0 K/BB, HBP, 6-0 GO-FO RP B. Parker .2 scoreless, 1 H, 1/1 K/BB, 1-0 GO-FO RP A. Cashner 1 IP, 3 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 2/0 K/BB, 1-0 GO-FO RP J. Gaub 1 IP, 1 H, 2 ER, 2/2 K/BB, WP, 0-1 GO-FO, E (1, pickoff) Tennessee lost 7-2 Box Score CF T. Campana 0/4, K 2B M. Smith 0/4, 2 K, E (1, fielding) LF T. Wright 1/4, K, Assist (3B) DH R. Canzler 0/3, BB, R, CS (3) RF M. Spencer 1/3, BB, R, 2 RBI, HR (5) 3B J. Vitters 0/4, K C S. Clevenger 1/4 SS M. Gonzalez 1/3 SP C. Muschko 4.1 IP, 10 H, 5 ER, 4/1 K/BB, HBP, 2-4 GO-FO RP J. Papelbon 2.2 scoreless, 1 H, 1/0 K/BB, Balk, 6-1 GO-FO RP D. Sasser 1 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 3-0 GO-FO Daytona won 8-3 Box Score CF B. Jackson 1/4, BB, CS (5) 2B DJ LeMahieu 1/5, R 3B R. Flaherty 2/4, BB, R, 2 RBI, K, SB (2) DH R. Ridling 1/3, R, RBI, 2B (5) RF K. Burke 0/3, BB, R, 3 K 1B J. Opitz 3/4, 2 R, 3 RBI, 3B (1) C M. Brenly 1/3, BB, R, K SS J. Lake 1/2, BB, R, RBI, E (16, fielding) SP R. Dolis 5.2 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 5/1 K/BB, Balk, 11-1 GO-FO RP O. Martinez 1.1 scoreless, 0 H, 1/2 K/BB, 2-1 GO-FO RP C. Siegfried 2 scoreless, 2 H, 1/0 K/BB, 2-3 GO-FO Peoria lost 3-1 Box Score SS HJ Lee 0/3, 2 K, HBP, CS (3), E (16, throw) 2B L. Watkins 0/2, 2 BB 3B M. Cerda 2/4, SB (2), E (7, fielding) LF G. Rohan 1/4, 2 K, E (4, throw) 1B J. Bour 1/4, R, 2B (12) C J. Mota 2/4 RF JH Ha 1/3, RBI, SB (1) DH C. Thomas 0/4, 2 K SP J. Antigua 5 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 1 ER, 1/0 K/BB, 6-4 GO-FO RP R. Searle 2 scoreless, 2 H, 1/1 K/BB, 5-0 GO-FO RP F. Batista 2 scoreless, 0 H, 4/0 K/BB, 1-1 GO-FO OVERALL: 1-3

The problems with late relief stem from the manager's stupidity and stubborn insistence on trotting out garbage like Grabow and Howry in key situations. Even with Zambrano returning to the rotation, Cashner will be behind Marmol, Marshall, and whoever in the rotation moves to the bullpen (likely along with Grabow and Howry). The Cubs don't need another relief pitcher. This pretty much sums it up for me. Cashner also needs to work on his changeup; he won't get much of a chance at doing that out of the bullpen.

The only legitimate reason I can see the Cubs moving someone like Cashner to the pen would be because he had tired arm or a minor injury. However, I have not seen any evidence of either. What a stupid move.

Speaking of which, he had a live chat earlier. He answered a good number of questions...

Alright, thanks!

Just curious, but why do you have Vitek below those three?