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Box Scores Iowa won 3-2 Box Score Tennessee at Mississippi suspended Daytona won 9-3 Box Score Peoria lost 16-7 Box Score Boise lost 1-0 Box Score AZL Cubs won 4-1 Box Score OVERALL: 3-2

It happens more frequently than you'd think. Including Vogelbach, there will probably be between 5-7 second round selections from this year who will get a comparable, if not higher, bonus.

Any idea if he will be there for tonights game? Yeah, he's in the starting lineup. Rubi Silva is shifting to 2B for today's game. He played some second in Cuba. Ok good to hear. Ill be there tonight so ill try giving a report of what I see. Anybody on Fort Worth that is noteworthy? 2B Cory Spangenberg was the Padres' first round pick, but that seems to be about it.

Fairweather fan!

He was a guy I liked, but I never saw him as being more than a 4th OF. Good approach, good feel for the game, but his speed, power, and arm all left something to be desired. Bit of a bummer he didn't sign, but I'm glad the Cubs didn't break the bank for him.

Box Scores Iowa won 5-2 Box Score CF B. Jackson 2/3, 2 BB, R, RBI, 2B (3), K 3B DJ LeMahieu 2/5, R, RBI, K LF T. Colvin 1/4 1B B. LaHair 1/2, 2 BB, R, 2 RBI, HR (27) C W. Castillo 0/4, K RF B. Snyder 1/3, BB, R, 3B (2), K 2B R. Flaherty 2/3, R, RBI, 2B (2) SS M. Gonzalez 0/4 PH J. Mota 0/1 PH S. Moore 0/0, BB SP C. Coleman 6 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 4 K, 10-1 GO-FO, E (1, fielding) RP C. Carpenter 2 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 2-1 GO-FO RP S. Maine 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 3 K, WP Tennessee lost 5-2 Box Score CF JH Ha 1/5, R, 2B (7), 2 K 2B N. Samson 2/4, BB, R 1B R. Ridling 2/3, BB, 2B (15), E (5, throw) 3B J. Vitters 0/3, RBI RF N. Perez 0/3, BB, K, Assist (2B) C L. Flores 0/4, K, PB (1) SS M. Camp 1/4 SP D. Beeler 7 IP, 9 H, 5 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, 12-4 GO-FO RP J. Stevens 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 1-0 GO-FO Daytona won 7-4 Box Score CF M. Szczur 2/5 2B L. Watkins 2/5, R, RBI, 3B (9), K LF E. Crawford 3/5, 2 R, 2 RBI, 2 2B (20), SB (22) 1B J. Bour 2/4, BB, 2 R, 2 RBI, HR (18), K RF M. Burgess 1/4, BB, RBI DH M. Brenly 2/4 3B D. Harrington 0/4, K SP C. Harman 4 IP, 6 H, 3 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, HR, WP, 3-5 GO-FO RP A. Kurcz 2 perfect, 2 K, 1-3 GO-FO RP J. Latham 1.2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, HBP, 1-0 GO-FO RP F. Batista 1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 1-2 GO-FO Peoria lost 4-3 in the 13th Box Score 2B R. Silva 1/4, BB, K SS E. Soto 0/6, 2 K DH R. Cuneo 0/6, K 1B R. Jones 2/6, R, 2B (23), 2 K C M. Gibbs 2/5, BB, R, RBI, 2 2B (7), CS (2), PO (1B), E (2, throw), PB (4) CF T. Easterling 2/5, BB, R, 2 RBI, HR (1), 3 K LF B. Klafczynski 0/3, 2 BB, K 3B B. May 0/2, BB, K PR/3B A. Alcantara 0/1, BB, K SP E. Jokisch 5 IP, 7 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5 K, 7-1 GO-FO RP B. Ebinger 3.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 2 K, 5-1 GO-FO RP P. Francescon 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, WP, 2-0 GO-FO Boise lost a rain-shortened game 6-2 Box Score LF KM Na 1/2, K, CS (3) SS B. Zapenas 0/3 CF PC Chen 1/2, BB, R, RBI 1B P. Hoilman 1/2 C R. Lopez 1/2, RBI, K, E (4, missed catch) RF R. Golden 1/2, K 2B W. Darvill 0/2, K 3B W. Contreras 0/2, K DH B. Springfield 1/2, R, K SP A. Reed 4.2 IP, 6 H, 6 R, 5 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, HR, HBP, 7-2 GO-FO RP K. Burke 0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 0 K AZL Cubs lost 5-2 Box Score 2B Z. DeVoss 1/4, R, RBI, K CF O. Zapata 0/4, K SS M. Hernandez 0/4, K, SB (5) 1B D. Geiger 0/4, 2 K 3B G. Amaya 2/4, 2 K, E (5, throw) LF E. Gonzalez 0/4, K DH DY Kim 2/3, 2 SB (5) C Y. Cabezas 0/3, 2 K SP H. Ackerman 4 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, WP, 2 HBP, 7-1 GO-FO RP A. McKirahan 1 IP, 1 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 1 K, 0-1 GO-FO RP F. Pena 3 IP, 3 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 3 K, HR, 2-1 GO-FO DSL Cubs 1 lost 6-5 in the 11th Box Score 2B J. Ortega 1/4, BB, 2 R, 2B (2) SS F. Sanchez 1/5, R, K RP V. Salazar .2 perfect, 1-1 GO-FO DSL Cubs 2 won 5-4 in the 10th Box Score CF J. Baez 1/5, 2 K SS C. Penalver 2/5, R, 2B (8), SB (11) 3B J. Candelario 2/5, R 1B D. Arcila 1/4, BB, R, K DH X. Batista 1/3, 2 BB, K, CS (2) OVERALL: 3-5

The problem is, we don't know what exactly the Cubs wanted to see out of him in that League. I can't remember the specifics, but I wouldn't be surprised if they asked him to scrap one of his pitches, throw more changeups, or something else along those lines. He could essentially be pitching outside of his comfort zone in order to show that he can be more than just a thrower. His production may only tell one side of the story. Still, those aren't exactly encouraging numbers.

Box Scores Iowa won 7-1 Box Score CF B. Jackson 2/5, R, 2B (2), 3B (1), 2 K, SB (1), E (1, fielding) 3B DJ LeMahieu 1/4, BB, R, RBI LF T. Colvin 1/5, 2 R 1B B. LaHair 1/3, BB, R, 2 RBI, HR (26), K C W. Castillo 3/4, RBI RF B. Snyder 1/4, R, 2 K 2B R. Flaherty 1/4, R, 2 RBI, HR (1), K SS M. Gonzalez 0/4 PH S. Moore 1/1, 3B (3) SP J. Jackson 7 IP, 6 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 4 K, 7-4 GO-FO RP J. Gaub 1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 0-1 GO-FO RP J. Berg 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 0-1 GO-FO Tennessee lost 5-4 Box Score CF JH Ha 3/5, RBI, 2B (6), SB (1) SS M. Camp 1/4, BB, R C S. Clevenger 0/5, K 1B R. Ridling 2/5, 2 R, 2B (14), 3 K LF M. Spencer 1/3, BB, RBI, 2 K RF N. Perez 0/2, BB, R, RBI PH J. Vitters 1/1 PH N. Samson 0/1 SP R. Searle 3 IP, 5 H, 4 ER, 4 BB, 2 K, 2 WP, 5-1 GO-FO RP O. Martinez 2 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 1-3 GO-FO RP J. Beliveau 2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 K, 1-1 GO-FO RP M. Hatley 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 1-0 GO-FO Daytona lost 5-4 Box Score CF M. Szczur 2/5, K 2B L. Watkins 1/5, 2B (8), K LF E. Crawford 1/4, R, 2B (18), K 1B J. Bour 0/3, BB, 2 K DH M. Cerda 0/3, BB, K RF M. Burgess 1/3, BB, R, RBI, K C M. Brenly 1/4, R, K 3B D. Harrington 1/4, R, RBI, 2B (3), K SP B. Wallach 5.2 IP, 7 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, HR, WP, Balk, HBP, 6-5 GO-FO RP L. Suarez .1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 1 K RP J. Serrano 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 1-1 GO-FO Peoria won 6-5 in the 10th Box Score CF R. Silva 1/5, 2 RBI, 2B (12), 2 K SS A. Alcantara 1/4 BB, 3 K DH R. Cuneo 1/5, R, K LF G. Rohan 1/4, R, K, E (15, fielding) 1B R. Jones 2/4, BB, 2 R, 2 RBI, 2B (22), HR (17) 2B E. Soto 2/5, RBI, 2 K, SB (3) RF B. Klafczynski 0/3, BB, R, 2 K 3B B. May 0/2, BB, RBI, 2 K C S. Burruel 2/4, R, 2B (4) SP S. Peralta 5 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3 K, 1 HR, 5-3 GO-FO RP P. Levitt 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, WP, 1-3 GO-FO RP Y. Gonzalez 3 IP, 2 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 2 Balk, HBP, 5-2 GO-FO Boise won 7-6 in the 11th Box Score CF PC Chen 1/5, BB, 3 R, RBI, 2B (8), K SS B. Zapenas 3/5, RBI, 2B (6), K, SB (6) DH R. Lopez 1/5, BB, 2 RBI, K, SB (1), PO (2B) 1B P. Hoilman 1/5, R, 2 RBI, HR (6), 3 K RF R. Golden 1/5, 2 K 3B W. Contreras 1/5, K 2B W. Darvill 2/5, R, 2B (5), 2 K, SB (2) LF B. Springfield 1/5, R, RBI, 2B (2), 2 K, SB (2) SP SM Jung 5 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, WP, 4-5 GO-FO RP JY Kim 1.2 IP, 4 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, HR, WP, 3-0 GO-FO RP C. Richardson 2.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, 4-1 GO-FO DSL Cubs 1 won 9-6 Box Score 2B J. Ortega 1/2, 2 BB, R, RBI, 2 SB (5) PH/2B A. Gonzalez 0/1 SS F. Sanchez 0/3, 2 BB, RBI, 2 K, CS (3), E (17, fielding) SP L. Guillen 5 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 4 K, 2-5 GO-FO RP J. Martinez 1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 0 K, 1-1 GO-FO DSL Cubs 2 won 8-3 Box Score SS C. Penalver 2/5, R, RBI, 2B (7), 2 K, SB (10) 3B J. Candelario 0/2, 3 BB, R, RBI, K LF D. Arcila 2/4, R, RBI, 2 SB (5) DH X. Batista 1/3, 2 K, HBP SP H. Perez 6 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 0 BB, 10 K, WP, 5-0 GO-FO AZL Cubs with an off day OVERALL: 5-2

Marmol worked through it fine the last time this was up, so yeah, I'll allow it. Can't speak for any of the other mods, though.

I think you'd be surprised at the number of people who post on this board who have done that and still analyze the game contrary to the way you do.

Szczur had a patient approach in college: His stats don't exactly back it up, as his slash lines looked like the following while he was at Villanova: 2009: .346/.438/.436 2010: .443/.487/.667 He rarely struck out (23 Ks in 188 ABs in 2009 and 9 Ks in 174 ABs in 2010), though. I think part of the problem with scouting reports is that plate discipline and plate coverage tend to get grouped together; i.e. if a guy doesn't strike out much, then he's clearly got good plate discipline. Szczur seemed to be more of a plate coverage guy than anything else, especially in 2010.

Someone posted the list elsewhere: Link

We're starting to get into chicken and egg territory with these discussions of player development. To me, if the Cubs have so many players in their system with mediocre to poor walk rates, is that a result of player development, or is that instead a result of how the Cubs acquire talent, be it through the draft, international signings, trades, etc.? To be honest, since Wilken took over, I'm having a hard time remembering how many hitters the Cubs have drafted who had noticeably high walk rates and strong plate discipline. Baez has had mixed reports so far. Ditto Vogelbach. Golden was really aggressive, from all reports. Szczur and Gibbs were unremarkable in those respects in college. Vitters had great plate coverage and a good eye, but he had questions about his plate discipline. LeMahieu was a high contact guy. Colvin certainly didn't fit the mold of a patient hitter. Off the top of my head, Brett Jackson is pretty much it, and he had really worrying strikeout issues.

BA:

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Box Scores Tennessee lost 10-2 Box Score CF JH Ha 1/5, 2B (4), 2 K SS N. Samson 2/5 LF T. Wright 0/4 1B R. Ridling 1/3, BB, R, E (4, throw) 3B J. Vitters 2/4, R, K C S. Clevenger 2/4 RF N. Perez 0/2, BB, 2 K RF M. Spencer 0/2 SP M. Loosen 5 IP, 3 H, 3 ER, 5 BB, 2 K, HR, 7-4 GO-FO RP K. Smit 2 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, HBP, 3-0 GO-FO RP J. Stevens .2 IP, 5 H, 5 ER, 1 BB, 0 K, HBP, 2-0 GO-FO RP O. Martinez .1 perfect, 0-1 GO-FO Daytona lost 4-3 Box Score CF M. Szczur 1/3, BB, 2 R SS L. Watkins 2/4, E (10, fielding) LF E. Crawford 0/4, RBI, K 1B J. Bour 2/4, R, RBI, 2B (22), E (11, missed catch) 2B M. Cerda 1/4, 2B (20), K RF M. Burgess 1/3, RBI C M. Brenly 1/3, BB, K 3B D. Harrington 0/4 SP A. Guzman 1.2 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 2 K, 1-1 GO-FO RP J. Antigua 4.2 IP, 6 H, 2 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K, 4-4 GO-FO RP A. Kurcz 1.2 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 1 K, WP, 1-1 GO-FO Peoria won 4-2 Box Score CF R. Silva 2/3, BB, R 2B E. Soto 1/4, 2 K, CS (5) 1B R. Cuneo 3/4, 2 R, RBI, 2 2B (14), K DH R. Jones 1/3, BB, R, RBI C M. Gibbs 0/3, RBI LF B. Klafczynski 1/3, RBI, K 3B B. May 1/3, E (8, fielding) SS A. Alcantara 1/3, K, CS (7) SP M. Del Valle 4 IP, 3 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 5 K, Balk, 3-1 GO-FO RP Y. Gonzalez 2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 BB, 2 K, 3-1 GO-FO RP B. Ebinger 1 perfect, 1-1 GO-FO Boise lost 4-2 Box Score CF PC Chen 1/4, SB (6) 2B B. Zapenas 0/4, K C R. Lopez 0/2, BB, R, K, HBP 1B P. Hoilman 0/2, 2 BB, R, 2 K RF R. Golden 1/4, RBI DH B. Springfield 0/4, 2 K SS W. Darvill 0/4, RBI, K 3B W. Contreras 0/3, E (6, throw) LF KM Na 1/3, SB (5), E (1, fielding) SP B. Wells 5 IP, 6 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 4 K, Balk, 9-0 GO-FO RP J. Rosario 3 IP, 5 H, 2 ER, 2 BB, 1 K, 2 WP, 7-1 GO-FO AZL Cubs won 4-3 in the 10th Box Score CF T. Easterling 1/5, 2 K, Assist (3B) 2B G. Amaya 0/4, 3 K, HBP SS M. Hernandez 1/5, R, 2B (7), 2 K 3B D. Geiger 0/5, 3 K, E (3, throw) LF E. Gonzalez 4/5, R, RBI, K, 3 SB (5), CS (1) DH Z. DeVoss 1/5, RBI, 2B (1), 2 K C Y. Cabezas 1/3, BB, RBI, E (1, throw) RF O. Zapata 2/3, BB, CS (2) SP B. Smith 4 IP, 2 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 0 K, HBP, 3-4 GO-FO RP R. Pichardo 3 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 K, HR, 5-1 GO-FO, E (1, pickoff) RP R. Garcia 3 IP, 4 H, 1 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K, 6-0 GO-FO DSL Cubs 1 won 3-2 Box Score SS F. Sanchez 1/3, SB (2) 3B A. Gonzalez 0/3, 2 K SP W. Eusebio 4.2 IP, 5 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 2 K, 2-4 GO-FO RP Y. Morel 4.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 3 BB, 6 K, 4-2 GO-FO DSL Cubs 2 lost 3-1 Box Score PH/RF D. Arcila 0/2, K 3B J. Candelario 0/3, 2 K LF X. Batista 0/3, 2 K PH/2B C. Penalver 0/2, 2 K PH/DH J. Baez 1/2, SB (25) RP A. Colinas 1 IP, 3 H, 2 R, 1 ER, 0 BB, 0 K, 3-0 GO-FO, E (1, throw) OVERALL: 3-4 The PCL All Stars lost to the IL All Stars 3-0 Box Score 1B B. LaHair 0/2 DH C. Robinson 1/2 PH/DH W. Castillo 0/2, K RP J. Gaub .2 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 0 K, 1-0 GO-FO

One thing I think people need to keep in mind is that Wilken has no role on the international side of things. I was wondering as well what role, if any Wilken has in that side. Wilken in his own words Paul Weaver heads up international scouting for the Cubs.

One thing I think people need to keep in mind is that Wilken has no role on the international side of things.

According to BA, 21st round LHP Andrew McKirahan out of Texas signed.

I just posted this in it's own thread (I didn't see any info on it here yet). I believe it deserves one, but if not--ditch it and discuss this news here. Thanks. Didn't see your post when I put this up. Looks like the I-Cubs retweeting this is effectively confirmation of the link you posted, though.

The I-Cubs' twitter feed just posted that Brett Jackson and Ryan Flaherty have been promoted to Iowa. Augie Ojeda reportedly has been released.

Box Scores DSL Cubs 1 lost 6-1 Box Score SS J. Ortega 1/4, 2 SB (3) 1B G. Jimenez 0/3, R, K SP G. Abreu 1+ IP, 1 H, 5 R, 3 ER, 5 BB, 1 K, 2 WP, HBP, 2-0 GO-FO, E (4, throw) RP V. Salazar 5 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 2 K, HBP, 6-4 GO-FO DSL Cubs 2 won 11-4 Box Score RF J. Baez 0/4, BB, R, 2 RBI SS C. Penalver 1/3, BB, 2 R, RBI, HR (1), HBP, E (11, throw) PH/DH J. Candelario 1/3, K PH/LF D. Arcila 0/0, 2 BB, RBI SP P. Araujo 5 IP, 7 H, 4 R, 3 ER, 0 BB, 7 K, WP, Balk, 4-3 GO-FO RP D. Torrez 1 perfect, 1-1 GO-FO OVERALL; 1-1

His second inning was an improvement, though. Baby steps.

BA had him as the #7 prospect in the Cubs' system following the 2009 season. They were much, much higher on him than anyone else, though.

Sandwich pick between the 1st and 2nd rounds. There's some value there, but the package the Cubs got for Lee was better than what they'd likely get out of a single sandwich pick.