They are in a conference and since the Big East is so terrible ND wouldn't even have to play their starters all year. Why not just make the Big 10 the real Big 10 and have Penn State and ND join the Big East. Not sure you pull Penn State out after 13 years in the conference. Whatever will become of the storied Land Grant Trophy game? And from my own biased perspective, I wouldn't want Penn State to have to deal with the BS that WVU, Louisville, etc. have this year. "Yeah, PSU is 10-1, but who did they beat? Pitt? South Florida? Rutgers?" Forget it. They have the recruiting power to hang in the Big 10 and I like the challenge Are you serious? ND and Penn State plus what's already in the Big East? In any given year it could be the top conference in college football. I do think that big rivalry game Penn State vs Michigan St is a good as it gets. Way better than a Pitt/Penn State game. Also, if Penn State were in the Big East this year they would have had anywhere from 2 to 4 losses in the Conference alone. Lets see how those 3 teams can sustain it over more than 2-3 years (UL, WVU, RU). Louisville is all about Brohm. Take him away and its nothing special. Sure they have a very good offensive coach but what else do they got. They havent recruited a high profile QB since Brohm. Sharp decline coming in my estimation. Rutgers, waay to early to tell. WVU has a mickey mouse offense with 2 very special players, how sustainable is that system in the long run? Their defense is poor. Wiscosin, Iowa, Purdue have shown they can at least sustain consistant success. UM and OSU have never had as strong programs as both they have right now. The backup QB for Louisville is the guy that ripped Miami apart and he was the QB against Kansas St. They have a very good system in place, trust me. WV has went undefeated a couple of times over the last 15 years and has always been solid. Rutgers, I agree that it's too early but as I've mentioned before they are a sleeping giant because of the area they are in. Let's not forget that Michigan went 7-5 last year either. I forgot about Leflors a couple years back. He was pretty good. I dont doubt Petrino can turn talent, they rely on the QB so much for success at that program thats what im trying to say. Im only going off what ive seen them recruit at that position and this guy you are refering to may turn out good but coming to UL he wasnt as highly regarded as Brohm. Rutgers has a lot of upside because of Jersey, i wont dispute that, its just too early to tell. Oh we remember 7-5. Heck they could of been 10-2 just as easily as 4-8. They replaced the DCord and you see what happened. They had the horse just not the right jockey. People think UM has always had this great talent and its not really true. They've had a few great playmakers through the 90's but they were never as talented as OSU was. They are just as talented as OSU is and now appear to be equal on recruiting. OSU now has a great coach they didnt have in the 90's and are still getting the same talent. I mentioned Wisconsin earlier and yesterday they just accepted their 2nd straight Citrus Bowl bid. Barry Alvarez was 8-3 in bowl games with 3 Rose Bowl wins. Wisconsin is so underappreciated as a football program its not even funny.