Five years ago, you could still believe in wins as a stat and simply be considered behind the times. But if you don't have some sort of evidence that you were in a coma, monastary, or frozen Encino Man style, we have to assume that you're choosing to remain ignorant rather than attempt intelligent conversation. Stop wasting our time. Sorry, Rob. But you and your confused ilk have yet to provide any stat that is more important than wins for a starting pitcher, especially one that is paid over $18 million a year. What's more important WHIP? :wink: Other stats have importance but not to the degree of wins. Your expectations seem quite low and indicative of your understanding. Come on man. Let's say Pitcher A has a 12.47 ERA and a 23.68 WHIP and averaging 300 innings per year over his last 3 years, and Pitcher B has a 1.21 ERA and a 0.43 WHIP and also averaging 300 innings per year over his last 3 years. However, Pitcher A plays for Team A, whose offense produces 25 runs per game, and Pitcher B plays for Team B who averages 0.43 runs per game. Because of this, Pitcher A went 19-1, 18-2, 24-1 over his last 3 years, while Pitcher B has had records of 4-20, 6-16, and 1-23 over his last 3 years. Both Pitcher A and Pitcher B are free agents this offseason. Team C is looking at both. Their offense averages 5.24 runs per game, they are a midsized team who cannot afford to make the incorrect decision between the 2 pitchers. Who should Team C choose? You will argue that this is an exaggerated example because no team scores 25 runs a game or as little as 0.43 runs per game. But your argument is that wins are the most important stat to judge a pitcher by so it doesn't matter because Pitcher A dominates that category. Case closed. Unfortunately Team C chooses Pitcher A, and their GM benchwarmer is fired one season later.