If McCamey comes back they're going to contend for the Big Ten title next year. I'm sorry but big freaking whoop. Your sights should be higher than contending for a conference title once every few years. If Kruger or Self had stuck around you'd be looking at a perennial powerhouse, IMO. I don't see that ever coming out of Weber. What's holding Illinois back from being one of the 5-10 best jobs in the country? Weber's coaching ability isn't and shouldn't be in question. Recruiting was an issue for a while, but the recruits are finally coming. Getting the recruits to buy into Weber's system right now is the challenge. Well I have my questions about Weber's coaching ability. But the recruiting thing is still a huge issue. I don't follow this stuff, especially when it comes to Illinois, nearly as much as you guys but my very subjective opinion is that it really shouldn't be that hard to pull in top 10 classes to Illinois. Is there anything stopping Illinois from throwing gobs of money at Jamie Dixon or whoever? I really do think if you find your Thad Matta you'd see Illinois rule the Big 10. It's a huge state with no real in state competitor. Seriously, like some above said, Illinois should be shooting higher than making the NCAA tourney most years. Let's face it, Illinois has been a marginal NCAA team the last few years. Let's take a look at Weber's tenure: 09-10: 19-14 (10-8) No NCAAs 08-09: 24-10 (11-7) 5 seed, lost to 12th seed in 1st round 07-08: 16-19 (5-13) No NCAAs 06-07: 23-12 (9-7) 12 seed, lost to 5th seed in 1st round 05-06: 26-7 (11-5) 4 seed, beat 13 seed Air Force in 1st round, lost to 5 seed Washington in 2nd round 04-05: 37-2 (15-1) 1 seed, beat 16 seed Fairleigh Dickinson in 1st round, beat 9 seed Nevada in 2nd round, beat 12 seed UW-Milwaukee in Sweet 16, beat 3 seed Arizona in Elite 8, beat 4 seed Louisville in Final Four, lost to 1 seed North Carolina in Championship Game 03-04: 26-7 (13-3) 5 seed, beat 12 seed Murray State in 1st round, beat 4 seed Cincinnati in 2nd round, lost to 1 seed Duke in Sweet 16 Remember that the 1st 3 years of his tenure, clearly his most successful, were played with a core of Bill Self's players (Brown, Deron, Powell, Augustine, Head - I know 05-06 only Augustine and Brown were there but that was a big part of core) So in the 4 years since the team has been Weber recruits, the team is 2 for 4 in making the NCAAs and has not won an NCAA tourney game. For a school like Illinois, who had the opportunity to build off a ridiculous season capped off by a championship game appearance, that's not good enough. Now I don't advocate firing Weber right now, but I think that you have to start considering his job status, whereas 2 years ago he was untouchable. I just don't like Illini fans making excuses for him. Bottom line is Weber should have been recruiting better. All that buzz after 05 was not capitalized on.