UMFan83

you're really [expletive] weird I didn't make the video...just passing it along for my fellow Bears fans.

Lions fans have a lot of pent up rage: (not at all SFW)

USA won this tourney fairly easily despite sending our "B" team. It's amazing how taking these events seriously allowed us to reclaim our international dominance. The gap is a lot closer than it was in 1992 (a LOT closer), to the point where we could lose any game we play. But we'll be the best team on the court every night for the foreseeable future.

Not unless Kurt Warner shows up wearing an Eagles jersey.

I'm shocked he's looked this good. He doesnt seem any less athletic than he did 5 years ago.

Today, REDEMPTION is spelled V-I-C-K

dammit i wish i didnt waste my waiver spot on picking up Derek Anderson. Before you all laugh at me its a 12 team league where 2 QBs start and Leinart was my 2nd QB because WRs and RBs are more valuable in my league the way points work.

#20 in the AP. Again, extends the streak of consecutive seasons being ranked for at least 1 week. I don't know if we've ever had a season where we werent ranked for at least 1 week. If we have it happened pre 1970 Edit: Just looked it up, 1967 is the last year where UM wasn't ranked at least once in a season, including preseason polls.

I miss Jerry Azumah on the postgame show. Anyone know where he went? Who is this new guy?

I just cant see how you take away a chance to have the lead. Your d makes a huge play for you and gives you the ball at the 1 yard line and you get 0 points from it? It took the Bears until 1:30 left to actually take the lead. They apparently didnt have a huge margin of error.

Lovie says he would make that same call in that scenario any time. I just don't understand that. The Lions had I think 1 first down in the 4-5 possessions since stafford left the game. The chances were that they werent going to do much. A FG hypothetically gives you a great chance to win the game. Lovie is lucky that A) the Bears won and B) the controversial call took almost all the attention of the game. Otherwise, the heat on Lovie is brutal. If a FG ties the game,and a TD takes the lead, I can understand the decision a little more. If it was only the 3rd quarter, I can understand it. But with 9 minutes left in the game, where a FG gives you the lead and a TD also gives you the lead, its a really bad decision IMO

Oh and BTW, I take back most of my argument about Cutler's performance. For some reason I thought I saw he had 44 attempts today. He only had 35. Statistically, that is a very good game. Still infuriates me when he misses wide open WRs when hes standing in the pocket.

There's a difference between determining in/out of bounds and determining a completed catch. What you're talking about in terms of getting something down matters for the former. Maintaining possession of the ball completely through the play determines the latter. But isn't the play over, if you are in the end zone, and your knee touches and you have possession at that moment? That's not how it works though. You have to first officially catch the ball and once you've done that you can get a knee down or cross the goal line or whatever. His knee was down but because he was catching the ball while falling, it is not an official catch until the fall is completed.

Also, as bad as the o-line was in pass protection, they did a pretty good job blocking on screens today. The screen was a very effective play today. Did manumaleuna play today? I don't remember seeing him.

cutler had split the remaining 2 defenders after peterson, who jumped 5 feet in the air to swipe it. it was placed very well, it's just that another player made an extraordinary play on it. If it was placed really well Knox would have caught it without breaking stride. He had 2 defenders beat, if Cutler place it correctly it would have been a 1 on 1 situation. I'm gonna stop talking about specifics on the play though because I need to look at the replay again. I saw the replay 3-4 times earlier and it looked pretty clear it was underthrown to me.

Id love it too. I didnt say he had a bad game I said he had a "B" game.

See thats what I think. I know I'd be up in arms if it was against the Bears, but based on what I knew of the rules, it looked INC the first time I saw it. People have made it seem like he completely landed and stopped rolling, and then used the hand with the ball to help himself up and just dropped the ball. In reality, in one motion he rolled, and as soon as the ball it the ground it bounced away from him. It's possible he was trying to prop himself back up with it in the same motion, but that's his fault for doing that. And there is absolutely no way he just dropped the ball, the ground caused that ball to come free, and since he was still in the process of making the catch IMO. The thing is, the people that are livid think the act of the catch was over, and the others disagree. I don't think there is any way that either side is going to convince the other. For the record I'm in the good call bad rule camp. But I'll take it.

I wish I had a replay I could show you. Knox had to break off the route he was running, ran in a yard or two and it was still tipped by a leaping DB. If it wasnt underthrown, Cutler was trying to get it intercepted because there was no way that throw was not going to be tipped by one of the 2 Lions that were in front of Knox.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSYDYI4F4xs If anyone wants to watch the controversial play again.

why do you hate cutler so much? peterson makes a great play on that pass to knox or it's right in knox's lap. just enjoy a great game from cutler and accept that he is our qb. Seconding sulleymon on this one UMFan, thats what you gotta live with as far as Cutler is concerned. Basically he's going to throw at minimum a pick a game on a play like that, on a 3rd and 20, because thats who he is. I'll take the 370+ yards and the ridiculously awesome TD to Forte at the end of the game when it looked like they might get themselves out of field goal range. That's fine..he only did it once today. Last year he had games where he had multiple plays like that (and I'm not talking about the ones that you could blame on the WR) where those single handedly cost us the game. I was more upset about times where he completely overthrew or underthrew the WR in this game. That's great that he had 370 yards, but he threw the ball 44 times...its not too extreme. (also, take away that 89 yard TD which was mostly blocking and Forte and its 289 yards in 43 throws which is 6.7 YPA which is basically what he did last year which is basically below average) It's great that the Bears can get 450 yards of offense, but when they have 6 different drives of 40+ yards and they only get 17 points from them, its not good. And that's not all on Cutler. I'm not saying he's a bad QB, but I have really high expectations for him. And as such I'm going to be overly critical of him, or at least moreso than if Kyle Orton played the exact same game. But anyways, I said he played a B game today. Did some things really good, but that INT is inexcusible for someone that is supposed to have such a great arm. I believe he was standing in the pocket, he threw into triple coverage, and he underthrew the ball, leaving it up for grabs between 3 lions players. It's ok if he throws into triple coverage once in awhile if he's gonna make the throw. It's ok if he underthrows it occasionally, as long as hes not underthrowing it into triple coverage. And occasionally its ok if he does both at the same time and it gets picked off. But I've seen games where it isnt just that one time, and those are the things that kill the bears.

Cutler - somewhat disagree. A decent performance but the INT is completely unacceptable, and there were a couple more throws that were wildly inaccurate. Those things shouldnt happen when you are settled in the pocket for someone who supposedly has a million dollar arm. He also lost a fumble in the game. Still considering how bad the O-line was most of the game, it was a decent performance. I'd give him a B.

LOL this guy called in and said he was at Soldier Field and Bears fans were apologizing to him (Lions fan) and shaking his hand

I'm listening to the Lions postgame. I guess I'd be talking about the same crap, but in the 25 minutes I've listened they havent mentioned anything about the game other than the call. People are calling in saying that things like "the refs are being paid off by the mob" and "I'm never watching the NFL again", etc. They won't even admit that the call is correct by the rulebook. And they havent mentioned anything about the fact that if the Bears don't randomly fumble at the 8 yard line, or if Lovie doesn't take guaranteed points at the 1 yard line, etc.

I was surprised too especially since the official on camera instantly called it a touchdown before they changed it. The call on the field is what won them the game. If its called a TD on the field, I could easily see them interpret the play differently and keep it a TD.

That is complete lunacy. I actually agree with him. When I saw the play happen in realtime my friend flipped out and I sat there waiting for a challenge.