7.5/2.5, I'd say. We drew Italy 1-1 last time, too. And I'm still not sure it increases our chance of advancement. Yeah but we had a much harder group back then and we had already lost to the other dominant team by multiple goals at that point in the tourney. While everyone celebrated that as a victory, they really needed an actual victory to have a great shot at advancing. McManaman looked absolutely distraught after the game. I think in terms of advancing, England shouldn't being that upset. And in terms of how they played, they had plenty of good opportunities and didn't put them away. But overall you gotta think they're pretty disapointed here. I'd say more of 4-5 for England. For USA, I'd say an 8. I don't think in the locker room they thought this way, but you have to consider getting a draw here to be a victory for the USA.