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Bolland is [expletive] awesome

Yeah its pretty much all for selfish reasons why it disappoints me. God he's just so dreamy...I want him in on those press conferences.

Is it just me or do the Hawks just look like a fantastic team thus far, results be dammed.

I guess after thinking about it, it can only be good for the Cubs that Epstein hires as many great baseball people as possible, and having someone fill the GM role allows them to hire a high profile guy who might already be a GM or a highly regarded assistant GM. At the same time, its slightly disappointing the Epstein will likely be the behind the scenes guy and the GM will be the one speaking to the media, attending press conferences for signings/trades/hirings, etc.

Wow Keith, really? That is a Duncan Keith special For those that didn't see it Duncan Keith was carrying the puck out of the Hawks zone and just collapsed under his own weight and gave up the puck, still in the Hawks zone, and was quickly taken by the Coyotes and converted into an easy goal.

We scored on a 5 on 3!!!

I have Cardinals in 6, although that is the last thing I would ever want to occur.

I said that the other day. I think the "boner for Boston" is gone.

Even the likes of Wittenmyer and Levine won't entertain the possibility that it won't get done. Yeah, I just keep coming back to "The Red Sox can't really be that stupid." The Cubs are already paying millions of extra dollars for Epstein instead of going with a lesser-known candidate. If the Red Sox drive the price of Epstein to the point that the Cubs walk away, not only do they get nothing, but they actually lose quite a bit of cash. They can't be that stupid, can they? I suppose the ultimate irony would be if this did fall through and Theo spends 2012 in limbo, and next year the Yankees promote Brian Cashman and hire Theo as their GM. I'm thinking that would make Henry and Luccino wish that they hadn't jerked him around. Meh, at the same time they'd feel pretty smug knowing that the Cubs didn't get him after (in their own impression) failing to recognize the value of Theo.

I think that's exactly what this is, and I too would be disapointed if Theo was the out of public eye president and Hoyer was the GM. Then again, apparently the best part of Theo is his ability to build a strong baseball organization and farm system and his worst quality is his ability to make successful FA signings. Hiring Hoyer as GM to target and negotiate FAs might be beneficial even if Theo surely has tons of influence on the decisions. Even if that's true, there has to be some level of independence built into the position for Hoyer to leave his position controlling the SD franchise and move to Chicago to work under Theo. Would make no sense to pay Theo 15-20M to not make those decisions. He is making those most important decisions. He's just giving Hoyer leiway to make decisions under the scope of what Theo's plan is. I dunno, its the only quasi-logical reason I can think that Hoyer wants to give up his control of a major league baseball team to take a less important role under Theo. He could be making more money, but I can't see it being significant enough for him to leave his current position. You really can't see any reason why Hoyer would want to leave the Padres to join the Cubs and his old buddy? Option A: Have full control over a major league franchise in San Diego Option B: Do all the dirty work for Theo as he makes decisions and I execute them It's a clear step back in his career. Maybe his motivations are different than most people, but most people in the baseball world would kill for the opportunity to run their own baseball opps department for an MLB team.

I think that's exactly what this is, and I too would be disapointed if Theo was the out of public eye president and Hoyer was the GM. Then again, apparently the best part of Theo is his ability to build a strong baseball organization and farm system and his worst quality is his ability to make successful FA signings. Hiring Hoyer as GM to target and negotiate FAs might be beneficial even if Theo surely has tons of influence on the decisions. Even if that's true, there has to be some level of independence built into the position for Hoyer to leave his position controlling the SD franchise and move to Chicago to work under Theo. Would make no sense to pay Theo 15-20M to not make those decisions. He is making those most important decisions. He's just giving Hoyer leiway to make decisions under the scope of what Theo's plan is. I dunno, its the only quasi-logical reason I can think that Hoyer wants to give up his control of a major league baseball team to take a less important role under Theo. He could be making more money, but I can't see it being significant enough for him to leave his current position.

I think that's exactly what this is, and I too would be disapointed if Theo was the out of public eye president and Hoyer was the GM. Then again, apparently the best part of Theo is his ability to build a strong baseball organization and farm system and his worst quality is his ability to make successful FA signings. Hiring Hoyer as GM to target and negotiate FAs might be beneficial even if Theo surely has tons of influence on the decisions. Even if that's true, there has to be some level of independence built into the position for Hoyer to leave his position controlling the SD franchise and move to Chicago to work under Theo.

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CC still thinks its 25% chance of Theo coming here.

The Raiders gave up a crapload for Carson Palmer.

So wait..if the draft was today, they would only have a 5th and 6th round pick to use in it? Or are there other picks that they've acquired from trades? That's hilarous if true.

That is an absurdly ridiculous statement. This year, sure. But this is the NFL, there is absolutely no reason why they couldn't be right back in it next season. Forte may not be worth a damn in two years. Do you honestly think if Jerry Angelo is still the GM he's going to all the sudden be aggressive at drafting/signing offensive weapons? He's had 3 years to build around Jay Cutler and he's given us....Roy Williams and Marion Barber.

Except for the fact that he ran for the most yards, scored the most rushing TDs, caught the most passes and scored the most passing TDs of his career in Ron Turner's jank ass offense his rookie season. He has had a higher YPCarry and YPCatch in the Martz offense though.

I wouldn't I would. Unless he's a hall of famer in the making Forte might not have a lot of miles left on those legs. For cap purposes, a franchise tag this offseason and then letting him go might be the right decision, if not a trade before then. OK, well give me an example of an NFL player that you would expect to get back for Forte. I understand the short shelf life of an NFL RB, but you are talking about a premiere one that puts up numbers comparable to Peterson (according to FO). He's litterally the only offensive weapon we have besides the QB, and we have a GM that refuses to acquire weapons for the offense. Not only are you punting this year, but you are probably punting the next one or two years after that by making the move. That said, its not completely unreasonable and what sulley suggested is a fair price for him if you wanted to trade him. I just think he's too valuable to us for the next 2 years at least to trade away. But yeah 2 years from now no matter how good or bad he is, its something I definitely consider.

The second part of that did not come out of Henry's mouth. That is somebody's interpretation of it. He did say that that protocol exists, and it WOULD seem to imply that that means if you offer someone a promotion, they will grant that person permission to interview. Still, granting permission doesn't at all imply anything about an agreement on compensation or that they'll agree to allowing the person out of his/her contract easily. In fact, he didn't even really come out and acknowledge that what the Cubs are offering is a non-lateral move (which is, to some extent, a subjective matter of opinion), though it's likely that they, at least somewhat, agree that it is. Bravo, David! Several people need to read the bolded as many times as necessary before it sinks in. Page after page of discussion about is it or isn't it a lateral move is completely irrelevant to the current issue of compensation. I think most of us realize that the quote doesn't refer to him leaving the Red Sox for nothing and at the same time most of us agree that there should be compensation involved in the process. What people do take from the quote is that there is an obvious difference between a manager leaving one team to take a manager position on another team and a GM on one team leaving to another to become President of Baseball Operations. Think back to the logic of why they don't refuse interviews to teams offering their guys promotions. Because they don't beleive its fair to their employees to block them from advancing their career with a promotion. As such, it stands to reason that they wouldnt also block their guys from accepting those positions by asking for unreasonable compensation, or at least compensation comperable to what the White Sox got or the Mariners or whoever has traded a manager to another team.

I wouldn't

Don't forget they also gave up a...5th? rounder to take Pryor in the supplemental draft.

There are 497 buildings in the city of Chicago that are 19 floors or higher. OK I did the first part, Kyle you find out which ones contain hotels.

They gave up way too much especially because the Bengals really didn't have any leverage unless the Raiders really believed that the Bengals were willing to let his contract run out and get nothing for him. That said, Carson Palmer is not a bad pickup purely as an addition. Yes he sucked last year when he was supposed to be leading the Bengals to victories. But in Oakland all he needs to do is make throws when needed and hand it off the rest of the time. He's certainly a better option than Boller. Since they got off to a good start this year and Al Davis died, they obviously want to make the playoffs this year, and Carson Palmer, for all his warts, is certainly a better choice to get them there than Boller or whoever else. that said, Carson Palmer of 2011 has like 25% of the value that Jay Cutler did 3 years ago and the returns for both are somewhat similar. Raiders will regret this trade sooner than later.

I doubt Nick Cafardo is too worried about stalkers or even people that would care enough to prank call him...even if there were slim chance said stalker would figure out what hotel it was. Someone wanna guess how many hotels are 19 stories or higher in chicago? I'm gonna guess that it's enough to make even the stalkiest stalker too lazy to figure out.