That's some really simple math that you're asking help with here... Wilson doesn't believe in science and math. What would make you say that? search.php?keywords=Evolution&terms=all&author=Wilson+a2000&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search First of all I don't think I ever stated my position in that thread. I was trying to clarify the position of ID while not specifically arguing for or against it. Second, I would hesitate to say that any theory that comes to a different conclusion than the consensus doesn't believe in science. I don't think the Bible is making any scientific claims in Genesis 1-2. I lean toward Francis Collins' position that while God is active in the universe, the god of the gaps theory that ID often uses is not a strong one. I don't think Collins' views are anti-scientific at all since he is in full agreement with Neo-Darwinism.