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They are clearly better, but either way that was a terrible throw on the INT bad defense or not

Brennaman sounds a lot like me not looking up the target % on Jeffery with Cutler and McCown

I think you were reading too much into that throw

Flacco was a stud in the 2012 playoffs. 117 QB rating with 11 TDs and no INTs. Roethlisberger had a playoff rating of 91.6 with 3 TDs and 1 INT in 2008. I think Jay could be Ben, but I don't think he is going to be able to touch Flacco's numbers. Jay needs a really good defense behind him to win in the playoffs and that isn't happening any time soon. So you're saying that Cutler is incapable of having a run like Flacco? The nonsense about the defense means nothing. Not incapable, but highly improbable of having a Flacco like run in the playoffs. Ben had top 10 defenses when he won his Super Bowls. I don't think Jay can win without a top 10 defense.

You want Cutler in the wind, not a noodle - armed McCown Agreed. Just saying weather sucks for him.

So windy with snow going against a decent defense. Not what you want to come back to if you are Cutler. Has anyone said how healthy Jay is compared to when is came back from the Detroit game?

Flacco was a stud in the 2012 playoffs. 117 QB rating with 11 TDs and no INTs. Roethlisberger had a playoff rating of 91.6 with 3 TDs and 1 INT in 2008. I think Jay could be Ben, but I don't think he is going to be able to touch Flacco's numbers. Jay needs a really good defense behind him to win in the playoffs and that isn't happening any time soon.

Probably for the same reason you poke your head in here and contribute nothing to the conversation. I'm sure Packers fans want Jay to start Sunday and the rest of the year if healthy, prefer to sign him to a long-term extension, and repeatedly point out that Jay has far more talent that McCown. There is very little to what I'm saying that goes against the grain. There is nothing revolutionary to interpreting Jay as being fed up with the McCown love when he was quick to point out that his fellow teammate, the NFC player of the week who just played one of the best QB'd games in Bears history made some bad throws. Jay went out of his way to say it.

Those were just "good" games

I want Cutler at $15-16 million or a franchise tag. Over $16 million let him walk. Just not worth it unless Jay leads the team to the NFC Champ game this year. Keep McCown as a backup since Jay is always hurt. Saying Jay has been outplayed this year doesn't mean I don't want him next year. But he has to put up better numbers these last three games. Having two QBs is a good problem to have. Both QBs can win Sunday. Even though I would play Jay Sunday if he can make all the throws, I'm just a little more confident with McCown. Jay isn't 100% and with this horrible Bears defense you can't turn the ball over. That has always been Jay's biggest weakness. And yet with Cutler and his weakness the Bears were still doing very well this year despite the defense. I just don't get why people talk like the team suddenly upgraded when McCown took over. Uh because they did in every offensive category for the time being? Well, except for scoring (except for that last game against the worst defense in the NFL). Now who's the meatball? You have to allow the Dallas game's stats.

Oh, you noticed that I didn't interpret things that he didn't say into the statement, eh? That was the point. Parsing hidden meaning is a useless exercise that I won't participate in. It really wasn't hidden at all

I want Cutler at $15-16 million or a franchise tag. Over $16 million let him walk. Just not worth it unless Jay leads the team to the NFC Champ game this year. Keep McCown as a backup since Jay is always hurt. Saying Jay has been outplayed this year doesn't mean I don't want him next year. But he has to put up better numbers these last three games. Having two QBs is a good problem to have. Both QBs can win Sunday. Even though I would play Jay Sunday if he can make all the throws, I'm just a little more confident with McCown. Jay isn't 100% and with this horrible Bears defense you can't turn the ball over. That has always been Jay's biggest weakness. And yet with Cutler and his weakness the Bears were still doing very well this year despite the defense. I just don't get why people talk like the team suddenly upgraded when McCown took over. Uh because they did in every offensive category for the time being?

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling. Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest. How do we help you not make up "hidden meaning"? Give me what your interpretation is, just not what mine isn't. My interpretation is that Jay thinks that McCown had a really good last game, and that Josh made some mistakes and had some throws he'd like to have back. "Good" is not a strong enough word (Jay didn't say really good). It was unbelievable, one of the best quarterbacked games in Bears history. When you win offensive player of the week and one of your teammates says it was just good and you made bad throws, I sense some jealousy there. From the clip I heard on M&H, those were the only things Jay said. I don't expect Jay to laud tons of praise on Josh, but I expected more than a blah and pointing out two bad plays on a day where McCown played better than Jay ever has here. You didn't really give an interpretation, just a restatement.

He had two bad passes. You can't hold Marshall and get in a position to make an interception and then say that was a bad throw. But yeah he had two bad passes. And his idiot play against Minnesota that cost us the game. Lets not forget that. Because that was as dumb a decision as you'll ever see. Was that not a "mistake", but a clever ploy to get Kyle Long a reception? Nor his inability to throw a TD in the red zone unless his receiver has nobody within 5 yards of him. And yet, when Cutler has good passes bobbled by Earl Bennett or deflected on a fluke and picked off, it's his fault. Not saying McCown hasn't made bad throws. He has. But overall outplayed Jay. Trestman's FG decision, Robbie's missed FG, defense not stopping the Vikings on 4th and long, and missed throws by McCown were all factors. Robbie's missed FG to me most important play that game. Actually, the offense's inability to convert 3rd downs was the thing that lost them that game. McCown's yardage in that game was mostly due to Alshon going cheat code. But whatever fits your warped narrative where Jay Cutler is somehow some bumbling hack and Josh McCown is going to lead the team to all the glories A missed FG to win in overtime was the biggest play. Almost always is.

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling. Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest. How do we help you not make up "hidden meaning"? Give me what your interpretation is, just not what mine isn't.

I want Cutler at $15-16 million or a franchise tag. Over $16 million let him walk. Just not worth it unless Jay leads the team to the NFC Champ game this year. Keep McCown as a backup since Jay is always hurt. Saying Jay has been outplayed this year doesn't mean I don't want him next year. But he has to put up better numbers these last three games. Having two QBs is a good problem to have. Both QBs can win Sunday. Even though I would play Jay Sunday if he can make all the throws, I'm just a little more confident with McCown. Jay isn't 100% and with this horrible Bears defense you can't turn the ball over. That has always been Jay's biggest weakness.

He had two bad passes. You can't hold Marshall and get in a position to make an interception and then say that was a bad throw. But yeah he had two bad passes. Yup, just two bad passes. All those other games where they couldn't punch it into the endzone? Totally on everyone else. Just talking about the Dallas game. Made more than two bad throws all season. Still just one INT.

Between Marshall's quote on Monday and this, your inability to understand the English language is startling. Then help me out. Don't bother posting if you aren't going to make a point. I still read Jay as being jealous of all the attention Josh is getting and trying to point out that he is not as good as his stats suggest.

He had two bad passes. You can't hold Marshall and get in a position to make an interception and then say that was a bad throw. But yeah he had two bad passes. And his idiot play against Minnesota that cost us the game. Lets not forget that. Because that was as dumb a decision as you'll ever see. Was that not a "mistake", but a clever ploy to get Kyle Long a reception? Nor his inability to throw a TD in the red zone unless his receiver has nobody within 5 yards of him. And yet, when Cutler has good passes bobbled by Earl Bennett or deflected on a fluke and picked off, it's his fault. Not saying McCown hasn't made bad throws. He has. But overall outplayed Jay. Trestman's FG decision, Robbie's missed FG, defense not stopping the Vikings on 4th and long, and missed throws by McCown were all factors. Robbie's missed FG to me most important play that game.

He had two bad passes. You can't hold Marshall and get in a position to make an interception and then say that was a bad throw. But yeah he had two bad passes.

Yep, build him up like he's Josh McCown or something

This is sarcasm, right? How would you interpret Jay's comments?

Cutler: "Josh played really good last game, but he's made his mistakes too and throws he would like to have back." The man can't stop himself. So jealous that he hasn't been close to McCown's production.

Who has outplayed Cutler this year by a wide margin Not really, plus he's faced [expletive] defenses and he's an older backup QB. I don't get this "hot hand" crap at all; the guy hasn't been able to stick as a starter for a reason, and the odds of him keeping up this success can't be too good, especially if they make the playoffs. His "hot hand" could easily implode in less than a single game. I would think what the offense can do and has done would make wanting the better QB coming back all the more appealing instead of thinking, "nah, let's not rock the boat with this whole QB who was out of football a little while ago thing." Who cares that he's an older backup right now. What has he done lately in this system with this coach and with these players. He has a better rating by 20 points on Culter. Interception % 6 times less. Throws for more yards per game and yards per attempt. And has a better win/loss record. So, yes McCown has destroyed Cutler stat wise. Sure Josh's hot hand could cool off and Cutler could lay an egg. But I think we have a much better idea of what McCown will do (and it's pretty darn good), but we don't really know how Jay will do coming off the injury. I said earlier if you can keep the playbook in tact and Jay can make all the throws he made earlier in the year, play Jay Sunday which the Bears will do. But you really can't say that Cutler hasn't been outplayed because he absolutely has. You would have to say that in spite of the stats start Jay.

Who has outplayed Cutler this year by a wide margin