And a pitcher bitching and moaning three years later doesn't exactly prove it either. My point is that if there was no damage there, then one game like that wouldn't hurt him. If there was damage there, and his arm was more sore than normal, it's HIS job to TELL someone. Like I said earlier, the conversation probably went something like this: DB: Aaron, hey dawg you good to go for awhile? AH: Uh, *glances for cleats*, yeah. DB: Alright go warm up, youve got a few innings in you. after inning 2. DB: Aaron, you alright? AH: Yeah. after inning 3. DB: Aaron, you alright? AH: Yeah, arm feels fine. after inning 4: DB: Good job Aaron, 9 SO in 4 IP, just 2 baserunners. DB: We'll make sure to push your next start back two days. At no point did that conversation ever go something like this. DB: How are you? AH: I'm too fatigued DB: Rub some dirt on it meat. AH: Uh, okay.