Bryants Disco Ball
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No. It's $8 mil this year and $9 mil next year if both sides opt in and $5 mil if either side opts out. So at most we have him for $17 mil the next two years and the least it's $13 mil for this year. If I understand Rogers tweets correctly. Right. So let's say Fowler declines the option. He gets $5 million. The Cubs could then decide to give him the qualifying offer after he declines his option, which would be more than $16. Thus, if they did that, he'd be guaranteed to make $21 million and there is no way the Cubs would tender him then. Thus, he will decline and be all but guaranteed to not have the QO attached to him. Or am I reading all of this wrong and am just a bonehead?
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So assuming that the 5 million dollar buyout is triggered no matter which side declines the option, was that a way to basically have an agreement that he wouldn't be given a qualifying offer, as it would cost the Cubs more than $20 million to bring him back for one season? Or am I off?
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I disagree. The Cubs paid a premium for Heywards defense, they should play him where he's had the most success. RF at Wrigley is very tricky, too. I hope he plays a majority of his time there. Scwarbs and Soler both seem like better fits in left. Yeah, I agree with you even though I don't think anybody else does. Love, love, love being able to put Heyward back where he's become the best at what he does even if he could have been just fine in CF.
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all of us who have ever laughed at theo's romanticized "people will want to play here so bad" stuff should probably shut up For sure. Dexter Fowler was the one guy who I've never had a feeling like this before but you could just tell............the dude loved being here. Loved his teammates. He wanted so bad to come back. I felt the whole time he would take less money to come back because he found the place that makes him most happy. And then he signed with the Orioles and I was thinking, "Guess I was wrong." This? This makes so much more sense.
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I think the much more likely scenario for him waiting for the end of the year/a WS is that he's hoping to negotiate a ridiculous compensation package with the Cubs that dwarfs any current GM/President of Baseball Operations compensation package. That's what I find unusual, although I haven't checked to see if it is actually unusual. It just seems that most GM's don't enter their final season of a contract without signing an extension by opening day if they are thought to be a huge part of the team's future.
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I don't want Theo going anywhere, but I would LOVE to see this happen.
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For those of us who want Theo back next season, is there reason to be concerned at all that he hasn't come to an agreement on an extension?
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We wouldn't get the 14th pick no matter what (if that's what you are saying).
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Don't they lose #28 or no?
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Are we sure it's fallen over folks were getting overexcited about a player playing well on the first decent Cubs team this decade? He wasn't playing well at all during the time the discussion was going on, though.
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It's crazy how far the Fowler market has fallen. We had a lot of people on here in June, when he was awful, still willing to give him $15 per for four years. Now, he can't even get $20 for two.
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Yup. His command of the strike zone returned in big way.
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Lucroy wants to be traded to a contender
Bryants Disco Ball replied to Clem Fandango's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
Youd' basically be paying the same amount of money for Lucroy that we would for Montero. Correct. But part of the reason all these teams are interested is that he's got a great contract for the next two years. That contract isn't quite as team friendly once they pay him Montero money. And then to trade a bunch of other stuff as well just doesn't seem that exciting when catcher isn't exactly a huge weakness and Lucroy may or may not rebound back to his great season of two years ago. -
Lucroy wants to be traded to a contender
Bryants Disco Ball replied to Clem Fandango's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
So the Cubs would trade Montero, McKinney, Almora, Vogelbach and others along with $18.5 million for two years of Lucroy? Which would then make Lucroy's team friendly contract no longer team friendly. That seems. ..............like a lot. Unless I read it wrong. -
Lucroy wants to be traded to a contender
Bryants Disco Ball replied to Clem Fandango's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
They all are. Baseball isn't football. The likelihood of taking a major hit to the head again isn't very good. You are right implying that more concussions occur in football. But catchers have sustained three to five times more concussions than all other positions have and 2.5 times more than pitchers. The reasons for that are obvious, and so when a catcher sustains a concussion like Lucroy did, it needs to be at least considered when talking about trading for him. -
Lucroy wants to be traded to a contender
Bryants Disco Ball replied to Clem Fandango's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I'd rather keep the prospects for what the Cubs feel they need at the deadline then get Lucroy right now. He's been super solid for a few years, but there is no promise that last season's issues aren't a sign of things to come rather than a bump in the road. Not to mention he had a concussion that knocked him out for the last few weeks. -
I'd love No. 4, and not because we aren't giving up good players. We are. But having Archer for six years, in which he isn't being paid more than $11 million, is really valuable and worth giving up a bunch of potential. He'd give the Cubs options, including not having to give Arrieta big money in a few years if they chose to use it elsewhere.
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I know I'm wrong, but I can't help getting the feeling that Fowler is a guy for the Cubs like Zobrist was. Working behind the scenes to sign him, but having to complete a trade of Soler to Tampa Bay first.
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I'll bet they held a gun to his head to make his sign his name to it. Starlin does have a way of being in the wrong place at the wrong time during the offseason.
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I feel like that's saying Starlin Castro, contributor to Player's Tribune. But maybe not.
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Yeah that was weird. But it was a good post either way.
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Yeah that was weird. But it was a good post either way.
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I wonder if he even read that before it was published. Thanks for the memories Starlin. Good luck in New York.
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Let's All Freak Out About Jorge Soler, You Guys
Bryants Disco Ball replied to ctcf's topic in Chicago Cubs Talk
I thought it was Steph Curry's, but am now disappointed in myself for not thinking A-Rod first.