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Healthy KB back, this offense fucks

Should’ve PH for Monty there. Try and make an inning of it and get runs. Off day tomorrow. Bullpen could handle going longer

Letting fat horsefeathers Cueto off the hook again

Oh I'm not really criticizing the deal, which i would probably do 100 times over (even if I think Q is kind of an obnoxious pitcher to watch,) I just don't think Brett's general attitude of "SEE I TOLD YOU (something) WAS GOOD WHEN YOU SAID IT WAS ACTUALLY BAD" is warranted here. brett is quietly pretty terrible about stuff like this. i find him really hard to take. I’m sure he’s been getting a lot of the twitter idiots telling him how bad and awful Q is all year so I don’t blame him for tweeting that. His mentions have to be a cesspool

What a stupid unlucky game so far. Posey hit that ball like 40 MPH

HEYRIDE!!

Who cares if we have fewer roll over GBs to infielders? It's not just that. MLB hitters are talking about how it's getting harder and harder to get base hits and just put the ball in play now. Defensive shifts, better and more detailed scouting reports, probably better catcher framing/presentation hurts them as well. Right now, offense is fine but I'm worried about down the road if they ever solve this "juiced ball" paradox then HRs should correspondingly drop. I can see strikeouts keep rising to new crazy high levels if pitchers keep throwing harder. I don't see this trend of pitchers throwing harder letting up. I mean it’s probably topped out at how hard pitchers can actually throw, the human body can only do so much. There’s certainly more guys throwing harder and that will continue but I don’t think it gets much worse than this from balls in play/pitchers throwing harder.

I think he’s closer to the starter he’s been lately vs the guy he was those first few starts if he’s made a starter over a full season. Plenty serviceable but closer to a mid 4 era guy than and sub 3.5-4 era guy.

But in the actual game we are down 4-0 Yes, and it’s stupid

What a stupid horsefeathering game

That was some pretty horsefeathers luck/sequencing. We were out of the inning with that weak GB

Ugh, Cueto was garbage that inning. Let him off

What are you worried will happen? Do you see the direction of this trend? Can't you infer what is happening or do you need me to say it out loud lol? Who cares if we have fewer roll over GBs to infielders?

Whatever slider/curve Cueto is throwing its absolute garbage. It’s just floating up there. Rough AB from KB there.

Bring back Bote!

Any FB over 92 MPH is a ball. Or ban breaking pitches. That’s the fix. Pitchers have gotten so good that the current way to approach hitting is really the only way to go about facing the current day pitching.

Plus Q allowed us to get Darvish (which yeah not great to this point, but getting him cheap dollar wise allowed us to spend big and fill a big hole that Q filled himself).

He's walked 3 or less batters every game in his last 9 games and 12 of his last 14 (2 or less in 9 of those). He's largely been the same pitcher he's always been going back to late April. "Largely" is pretty loaded, and arguably pretty inaccurate, in this case. No, he hasn't been terrible, but he's been significantly worse than expected/hoped. It's not like the guy's overall value is taking a pretty big hit just for kicks. Like, I get that guys like Quintana and Rizzo aren't THAT far off from the mark for the most part, but there seems to be a disconnect between "they're basically the same guys" and then looking at their numbers and seeing they're going to be settling for a relatively pretty subpar total value even if/when they truly are back to themselves in the second half. 2.5+ fWAR Rizzo is not the same guy this year. 2+ fWAR Quintana is not the same guy this year. Yeah but I mean they are largely doing a lot of the same things they've always done their whole careers (Rizzo's batted ball profile and what not, Q's velo and pitching his last ~14 starts) the results have been a bit wonky and they are just a tick off it seems (too many grounders by Rizzo, Q’s command at times). Also with Q (yes you can do this with most pitchers) he seems to have been a little unlucky with some runs and could probably have ~8ish runs saved by just having not ridiculously horrible luck. He pitched in that horsefeathers weather game vs the Braves where nobody could pitch and we scored 10 in the 8th or whatever, he was pitching in Coors when Heyward went blind and cost him a few runs, Cishek gave up a 3 run dong vs some horsefeathers RHH when coming in for him (yes he let this guys on base but still), and I think there was one really other weird scenario I can't think of. You can't dismiss all that to just bad luck, he should be pitching better but those are some really bad luck scenarios and all pitchers have bad luck but an Gold Glove OF going blind and pitching in winter weather is an extreme.

I’ve definitely seen that sentiment here, not as bad or over the top or as prevalent as twitter and social media but I’ve seen it here. Sure, because to this point he's had an OK year at best, and, as pointed out, he's been a disappointment this season relative to expectations. Yeah, it's great his ERA has been trending the right direction for a while now, but it's not like anyone has to dig deep to see where he's struggled or been noticeably worse this year. Like, I'm much more encouraged if he stops walking so many guys (and he did that last night, huzzah!) and gets that walk rate and WHIP down than really ever worrying about his ERA. He's walked 3 or less batters every game in his last 9 games and 12 of his last 14 (2 or less in 9 of those). He's largely been the same pitcher he's always been going back to late April.

Why do you think that's smart for them? Seems like you'd be able to get more trading them at a deadline than over the winter when there's more free agent options. And the Mets aren't a threat to anyone. I don’t think they should trade them at all. They have them for 3-4 more years, hope they sync up with health/performance over that span to be competitive, if you have 2 guys pitching at 5-6+ WAR pace you can compete with suboptimal performance elsewhere. Seems like there would be more teams in on them during the offseason the during the season too, if they decide to move them. The top end FA pitching market sucks this offseason too.

A little disappointed sure, he can bet better. But to act like he’s been no good at all and a complete bum like a huge chunk of the fan base has acted is equally obnoxious and out of line. is that happening here? i know brett wasn't speaking about here, but i don't really care what the twitter idiots and everyone's uncle think about quintana. he's been fine. but, given his track record, age, stuff, and health, he really should be the best performer on this staff. instead, this year, he's been less valuable than pedro strop and as valuable as cishek. my disappointment is always going to be relative to my super high, but i think reasonable, expectations for him. i want him to go back to being a super stud. I’ve definitely seen that sentiment here, not as bad or over the top or as prevalent as twitter and social media but I’ve seen it here.

Mets aren’t going to look in to trading DeGrom or Syndergaard until the offseason. Which seems smart for them. Wheeler and Matz are available though. I’d have a little interest in Wheeler and have also mentioned Lugo/Gsellemen multiple times. https://www.sny.tv/mets/news/mets-have-moved-past-idea-of-trading-degrom-syndergaard/284364018

A little disappointed sure, he can bet better. But to act like he’s been no good at all and a complete bum like a huge chunk of the fan base has acted is equally obnoxious and out of line.

This would be my ideal playoff lineup vs RHP except for Willy for Caritini obviously and the 5-8 spots could be ordered in whatever order.

Wonder if this is a Chatwood skip?? [tweet] [/tweet]