When was the last time you where in Pittsburg? I was there last year for a few Cub games over the couse of a weekend. The city is alive and well. The downtown is thriving and they have new shopping and tourism attractions. IMO, the problem is that they haven't been good in a long time. If the Steelers can sell out Heinz field, the Pirates can sell out PNC. Why would I want to go to Pittsburgh? Yikes! So what, they threw a bunch of government money to bring alive downtown. So did Cincy. It still doesn't change the fact that they're both old economy cities. Both places should be one sport towns. Send the baseball franchises to the East or West Coast or to Chicago. Man, are you parochial, or what? The Reds and Pirates are original NL teams, they're just as proud as our Cubs. And they're not the "poor sisters" many make them out to be, it's lousy baseball teams that are the problem, not fan support or lack of underlying passion. There are nearly 7 million people in the effective Reds dominance area, including Louisville, Dayton, Columbus and Indianapolis. Pittsburgh is in a little tougher spot, but they are in better shape than KC, Milwaukee, Tampa and frankly, San Diego in terms of total fan base size. Honus Wagner. Ernie Lombardi. Ted Kluszewski. Ralph Kiner. Roberto Clemente. Pops Stargell. The Big Red Machine. Not sure where you're getting SD?? People near & in SD have lots of money and can afford the rising ticket prices, which is a big part of producing revenue. And I forgot about KC. As for Cincy, all I keep hearing is that the Cincy metro's going downhill fast. So, baseball should only be in markets full of affluent people? :roll: I hope you're never in a position to make important decisions. If you want a competitive league, you need to put them either in most of the affluent regions or change the financing. Why have 5-8 organizations that are essentially minor league systems?? Some of these organizations are a joke. The utopian in me prefers them going w/ tradition and keeping teams in the old cities. However, the realist in me figures there won't be a change & they need to move some organizations like Tampa & Florida, which are quite affluent btw, but for some reason don't support baseball. Poor green bay packers, with a metropolitan area 1/30th the size of the larger markets. Oh, wait, the NFL is set up so that yo don't have to suck if yiu're a small market team. What, you mean that's actually possible?