Yep. No. Most of those kids are on the travel team because one or both of their parents are living vicariously through them. It's a brag wall. Talent will out. The kids who are on those teams because of talent don't pay a lot to play on the team. Someone else pays. It's the way these things operate. Also, often the coaching on those teams is abysmal. The way kids get better is in the offseason when they go to skilled people to get private lessons or small group instruction. That does cost money though. But if they talent isn't there to begin with it won't matter. All of what you said is true, but the point is these travel leagues make the rec leagues absolutely atrocious in almost all rural/suburban areas of the country. Most of the kids who play travel ball are not near good enough to justify it, but them playing travel ball guts the rec leagues. I've seen every side of this. I have coached a travel team, umpires hundreds of travel games, watched one of my brothers play hundreds of travel games which meant my other brother and myself got stuck in rec league. Thankfully, no travel team materialized in my age group so our rec league did not suck, but my other brother got left way behind. I started on the best two teams our HS has ever put out. He got cut after sophomore year on a much worse team (same HS). He was a better athlete and more driven than me. My third brother is 12 years younger than me. The rec leagues now are a total joke compared to when I played. He's been playing travel since he was 9. My parents can't afford it, but his loaded coach insists on paying for everything because he thinks they're going to win state when they're in HS. I want to scream at him, "You have no clue what their competition is going to be like! How can you claim this group of 12-year-olds is going to win state?"