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Aikman now saying Zappe should be a back up qb by comparing him to Musgraves

Everything was pretty typical young QB flaws. If he keeps it up he can just keep building. And figure out the yips on these short throws. He threw well on the short throws at the beginning of the game, but the wet ball flings suck

I hate to say it, but Aikman says stuff that makes me think he has CTE WHO CARES ABOUT BAILEY Didn't he retire because of frequent concussions? And that was in the 90s, so you can probably at least double the number of diagnosed concussions to determine how many he actually had Yes Also JF is AWESOME

ALSO, RAW, did you see that sidearm TD throw???!? Lol

I hate to say it, but Aikman says stuff that makes me think he has CTE WHO CARES ABOUT BAILEY

Nice O

2006- Brady deked Urlacher 2010- Terrible weather, a very good Bears team got destroyed by the Patriots Oh and 2002 at U of I, The Bears actually almost beat the defending SB champs. I remember that terrible team. I remember the 88 game, Bears were a good team and I think the Patriots sucked. I was so pissed but remembered the SB massacre was still a not so distant memory. '88 being the year of the Fog Bowl, the second time Soldier Field hosted the NFC Championship (lost to SF) and of course the title of the forgotten classic Easter '88 by Urge Overkill the horsefeathers I remember [bbvideo=560,315] [/bbvideo]

theres always a way

100% have to trade him. I won't really fault Poles for not trading him before the season. If he wasn't getting a good enough package for him, it didn't make sense to take a competent player off the team for less than ideal draft capital in return. It sucks that he has sleepwalked thru 6 games so far, but he also slept thru 2020 and came back to provide a ton of value last year. That alone makes him viable to a contender. They know he still has that potential to have a huge stretch for a contender down the stretch. But at this point, the only options at this point are: 1) Quinn stays the season, continues to do nothing, gets cut in March and goes to another team for nothing but cap relief. 2) Quinn stays the season, somehow finds motivation in a lost rebuilding season and builds up trade value in March You can't gamble on 2. And even if 2 does happen, you can't assume a team would take him with an even higher cap hit next year and a year older. Trade him now. Get something for him now. Anything is better than nothing in March. Plus, a 2023 picks gets them back to a full allotment of 7 picks and potential to move around more with one of these rumored WRs on the market. Like if you can get a 5th for Quinn, I'd certainly trade up to a 3rd for a guy like Claypool or Jeudy. yea, I'm in no way married to keeping Quinn, I'd like to see more of the younger guys. I'd like to think hes worth more then a 5th however,,,,,,,alas

It's been speculated, Bears shopping Quinn? https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/bears/2022/10/20/chicago-bears-shopping-robert-quinn-ahead-trade-deadline/10553263002/

When a D has 8+ men up to defend the run, they have 8+ men to defend short throws too. I say throw medium/long on downs 1,2 and run on 3rd if you have to

he's being pressured on what, 46% of pass plays? One could assume that that would effect the short throws more, meaning he isnt even going to attempt a long pass with pressure, and how many of those shorter throws are under duress? Its too difficult to understand if its Fields, or the line, or the wr's, or everyone when everyone is scoring so poorly. what a mess poles

Yeah I can’t find the tweet now but I saw yesterday that Fields has completed more 10+ yard passes then under 10 yard passes which is completely unheard of weird as hell

Do you think Bresee will lasts to the 2nd or 3rd? There are several DTs listed as having that draft grade. Is it a DT rich draft? No, I think he actually goes top 10-15. He has the size, the talent (5-star recruit, #1 overall by some), he has leadership and has been thru a lot (little sister just died a few weeks ago). He will get drafted very high. But I don't think the production has matched the talent. And I wonder if he's not lacking a little bit athletically. It's a really good DT draft. You'll have Georgia with another top 5 pick (I'd strongly consider Jalen Carter if he's there whenever the Bears pick), Bresee probably top 15. Then a Vita Vea type later in the 1st, and overall about 10-11 guys that should go in the first 3 rounds. Yea, that's what I am starting to learn reading the scout sites - lots of options at dt. My thought was if the bears get a high draft slot, trade down and get (2) 1st rd slots, you've got 3 picks to work out best player strategies for WR, DT, OL (if you include the 2nd rd pick, which would also be a high pick) And it's conceivable the bears could slate DL with their 2nd rd pick and expect to still get value there. But if Bresee slipped into the later 1st, it would be hard for me to pass him up if we had (2) firsts

Brown would still be better then every other option we have. side note, if Bresee is there when the Bears draft do we take him? I think I would if we could get some OL help in FA, and there was a good amount of WR talent available in the 2nd this year. I dont know how the draft looks for WR's. Not really debating how good Brown is. He's not really a fit, if you listen to Poles. And I'd rather pay Jenkins whatever he wants vs. what I already know what Brown wants because he already turned down a deal. I am also not a big fan of Bresee, especially not as high as the Bears will be picking. He's not a top 5 talent, IMO. If picking 6-10, I'm taking WR/OL over him unless someone else is there I don't expect. 10-16, I think is prime WR territory so I'd almost certainly go WR over him as well, whether I have a WR rated higher or not. I worry about his quickness, he also tore his ACL so weary about that. And he's also not a stud run defender like Jordan Jenkins. I'd probably not take him until the 20s, even if I was dead set on DT. I don't see this top 10 prospect that most have him ranked as. Do you think Bresee will lasts to the 2nd or 3rd? There are several DTs listed as having that draft grade. Is it a DT rich draft?

How much of that is "I'm throwing out of bounds because I'm running for my life and don't want to get annihilated again." Has he really had that many throwaways? I feel like most "running for my life" situations have ended in a scramble or a sack. I could be wrong though. walterfootball thought of him as an accurate passer pre-draft, so this whole thing is odd. Also, if he's being hit, throwing to a WR who doesn't get to the right spot, or doesn't have the throwing lanes he should could all effect his accuracy. My guess is its a combo of dealing with a pass rush right up the middle far too often and not having decent wr's while trying to work through a new offense what was meant for someone like Rodgers. 1) get him a new interior line 2) get him better wr's 3) get him more experience in this offense 4) give him a horsefeathering chance poles

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Brown (KC), Conklin (CLE), and Jenkins (GB) all make sense as far as possible o-line upgrades. Payne (DT) from Washington could also make sense Everyone loves Brown, but my issues with him are: A) he's not that good B) Poles mentioned wanting athletic linemen. He is perhaps the most unathletic lineman there has ever been (based on combine numbers). C) he's looking to be among the highest paid LTs in the league. He turned down a deal that would put him in the top 5 LTs and top 3 RTs. He's not a LT to me and he's not one of the 3 best on the right side either. Not that players get paid based on that, but I don't want Brown if there are cheaper options that fit better (you named 2 much better ones). Brown would still be better then every other option we have. side note, if Bresee is there when the Bears draft do we take him? I think I would if we could get some OL help in FA, and there was a good amount of WR talent available in the 2nd this year. I dont know how the draft looks for WR's.

That's a good point. But yeah, Quinn and Whitehair are gone to me. Keep Jackson. I'd re-sign Montgomery and tag Roquan. Extend Mooney and Jaylon Johnson. They have to spend on OL and WR and probably pretty big on OL at least (nobody really worth spending on at WR). But they can justify spending some on the DL as well, replacing Quinn and severely upgrading DT would be a need. Brown (KC), Conklin (CLE), and Jenkins (GB) all make sense as far as possible o-line upgrades. Payne (DT) from Washington could also make sense

SPEAK THE TRUTH BROTHER

I kind of had the same thought today too. Im not giving him a pass but I accept that this is how Poles chose to approach things and I'm giving him this season to get through all the tanking before I consider him a failure. But like has been pointed out many times before there is no reason for a rebuild to take more than 1-2 years in the NFL. I expect to start seeing some real success next year. I look at the giants and am reminded why I wanted Daboll, and instead we have Eberflop

Guys, the sun came up this morning and as a result hairy feels all is lost

Game ova

Lol wut The last time we had a decent secondary it was lead by Peanut Tillman, before that Mike Brown. We get eaten alive against GB a lot because our secondary is usually...not great Eddie Jackson, Kyle Fuller, Adrian Amos, and Prince Amukamara would like words. I was so focused on the QB at that time, I forgot about them. They were fun too

Rodriguez is fun