CubbieBum

Yeah that's true. Their endowment may cover their lack of athletic revenue. I would be curious to see if it does though because they probably lose millions on football compared to the other schools simply because of attendance. edit: According to this article Northwestern made $13 million less than the next Big Ten school for the 2007-08 year. Indiana was 10th in the Big Ten (38th in nation) with $54 million while Northwestern was 11th (59th) with $41 million. This is just football Northwestern is probably last in basketball too and many other sports.

So Big Ten got 4 of the top 12. Nice.

You may have misread what this thread was supposed to be about just like I did. I think it's intended to be totally hypothetical, not reality. Well in that case its easily Northwestern. They not only are bad at most sports but like I said due to their stadiums and in lack of fan support they bring in by far the least revenue. I don't think academics can make up for all of that. After them I would say perhaps IU because other than men's basketball and soccer (yes I realize soccer is not important but worth noting) they don't do much and are towards the bottom in academics.

I could be wrong but I thought all the original members of the Big Ten couldn't be kicked out. I've heard others say it but even if its not a rule I'm pretty sure it would never happen. That eliminates Northwestern who pretty easily brings the least to the table. They aren't very good at almost any sports (or at least in the major sports) and they have small stadiums. They may do okay record wise in football but their stadium has a capacity of something around 47,000 and if I'm not mistaken they never fill it. They are probably the best when it comes to education but they are really bad when it comes to athletics.

I sent the email right away, I hope he gets back to me tonight, to that I can begin prepping. Who else from the board is involved? You've got mhuber, moochpuppy, BigBadB, myself, big_shooter17, roady, Cubbiebummin, and a couple of guys whose names I don't recall here. It's just Cubbiebum here thank you.

I will be totally and utterly shocked if the 49ers take a RB anytime before Round 4 let alone with their first pick. Granted it is Spiller but we have Gore and just spent a 3rd rounder on a guy the coaching staff supposedly really likes.

18 points to 3 points. How a team can get up so big and then blow it I never have understood. I got to say I told my brother on the phone that I didn't have a good feeling even when we were up 16. We'll see if Purdue can hold on like that did at Illinois.

My smack talking and gloating through texts probably don't help your loathing but they make me feel good.

The parade is absolutely ridiculous. People are backed up 50 feet shoulder to shoulder for 2 miles. They may start rioting. I left to watch the Purdue game but the crowd was starting to jump on cars and cause lots of damage. I am almost certain there are more than 400,000 people at the parade which is larger than the actual population of the city.

You can expect the player to assist in making the tackle instead of just teeing off on a guy. If any and all contact is penalized, that's one thing, but if they are looking at penalties against the cheap shots I'd have no problem with it. If their only intention is to hit a guy really hard with a shoulder or helmet, they aren't really trying to make the tackle. Force them to spread their arms and make a tackle. It's called forcing a fumble. This is not two hand touch football. Injuries happen. I tend to support Goodell because I like his crack down on off the field stuff but if he continues with all these rules he will ruin the sport. People (players included) are already speaking out against the QB crap.

To be fair Illinois managed to score at the end because D Mac was in the zone and making 3-pters. Probably didn't have anything to do with Weber.

4 years later. When it was my first real opportunity because I just gotten out of college?

I hope this is the kind of stuff you talk with the people about. I wear a Drew Dat shirt and Purdue hat for every game so it comes up.

Oh Shut the [expletive] up Uh no. I felt horrible after getting back and a lot was because I just gotten back from the city. It tied me emotionally to the city and probably contributed to my moving here. This post convinces me that you're simply just a master of humor and not a serious poster, because no one with any sense of anything would seriously feel bad after a hurricane destroys a city because they just returned from there. What, do you think because you left the levees broke? You wouldn't feel bad having to wonder if all the people you just met in that city are alive or dead. I met a lot of local people while there and then the hurricane hit. It made it real to me instead of a tragedy that has no real connection to me. I feel bad during every tragedy but it is different when you have just been there and talked to a lot of people who may now be dead.

? Former Patriot and Jet? 5th all time leading rusher? I know who he is, didn't realize he was that high up on the charts(ESPN says 4th all-time). He and Barry Sanders are the only two to have 10 straight 1,000 yard seasons. I would say Faulk, Bettis and Deion are all in first time. Bettis doesn't deserve first ballot IMO but he is very well liked so he will get in over Martin despite having less yards, total TD's and more fumbles. I think after that Carter and Sharpe get in. That's your five.

Oh Shut the [expletive] up Uh no. I felt horrible after getting back and a lot was because I just gotten back from the city. It tied me emotionally to the city and probably contributed to my moving here. Just so everyone knows I don't have a problem with people calling me a bandwagon Saints fan. I am a fan because of Brees. If Brees wasn't there I probably wouldn't care a whole lot how the Saints do (although being surrounded by their fans is rubbing off). I would still be rooting for the Saints in this game because I loathe the Colts but the 49ers are still 1st and always will be to me. I do have an old Jim Everett Saints jersey though.

This would be the type of homerism I am talking about. Someone makes a comment putting Illinois in the negative light and he gets attacked despite being right. Tadowdaddy didn't say KSU has done more than Illinois. If anything he is saying KSU has done less. He said KSU doesn't even do that alluding to that Illinois has done enough and its fanbase should be proud enough that it shouldn't storm the court in a regular season conference win.

HOF has always been bad to WR's but I think voters didn't want to put him in until Rice was in because they are the same era. I think Carter gets in next year. That's I can think of at least. That was the thought last year as well, but I would've thought they'd be ok with putting the two in together. Leaving Carter out of the HOF because you want Rice in there first is rather weird (though entirely possible). All it takes is enough people on the list to think that way and it is impossible to get Carter in. Doesn't have to be all of them or even most of them. It could be that some thought that putting Carter and Rice in together makes them seem like equals.

HOF has always been bad to WR's but I think voters didn't want to put him in until Rice was in because they are the same era. I think Carter gets in next year. That's I can think of at least.

Turner & Battle don't make it? turner is there and take one of the purdue guys off. i leave battle off. Yeah forgot about Turner. Does he qualify for the stats yet? I think that may be why I missed him. I would take Shurna off. Battle doesn't make because his team is winless. I'm not one say POY or MVP's can't be on losing teams but winless teams and losing teams are completely different to me and winless teams shouldn't have players get awards and recognitions unless they are head an shoulders above everyone else and Battle isn't.

So watching this Illinois/Mich. St. game has me thinking. Who is the All-Big Ten First Team as of tonight (real lineup not 4 guards or something like that). I think the only locks are McCamey and Lucas right now. After that Hummel is probably on there. Johnson and Moore also are in consideration which makes it tough for me because I don't really see a better center than Johnson and Moore has been the one to step up in big games and is our leading scorer. I would have the team as ... G McCamey G Lucus F Shurna F Hummel C Johnson

You are right. I know you didn't mean to be but working downtown where you meet a lot of people who live around New Orleans and talk to them everyday you learn about the city. I have been here almost 9 months and have worked at customer service jobs the whole time. I also went out and reported high school football and sat in crowd where many of them would still talk about Katrina and the city not being rebuilt. One of my roommates also has worked for the America Corps. out in the parishes for 2 years and I hear a lot about the people out there. SO yeah I would say I know how people in the city feel pretty well. Not as well as people who have lived here their whole lives but probably better than anyone on this board. Maybe, but maybe not. Do you actually think you know more about the city than him? Dude, he talks to people. I've never lived in New Orleans, but I've lived all but five of my 37 years in the state. I have a number of friends from there and have visited there a number of times. I met many of the evacuees in shelters, talked to one every day as she taught at my school until she returned home to rebuild her home in the ninth ward. He may have a better understanding of them than I do, but maybe not. Would my living in Chicago for six months give me a better understanding of the city as someone who lived in Illinois their whole life, but not in Chicago? I don't know, but I wouldn't be so presumptuous to claim it. Of course, I'd never claim I was mentally ready to be a parent at 18 either. In fact, I have two and at 37, I'm not sure I'm mentally prepared for it. But I guess we've all learned that da bum knows more than us anyway. You no doubt know more about the city in general. What I was saying is I have a pretty good idea of how the residents here currently feel. I don't know much about anything prior to my getting here. Although I will say visiting New Orleans for the first time one week before Katrina tied me to the city in way and caused me to read a lot about the city. I know how the people here feel at this moment in time anything else I'm sure you know much better than me. As for your analogy I would say someone who has lived in Chicago for 9 months would have a better idea of how the people in the city are currently feeling than someone who has lived in the state of Illinois but not Chicago for all their life.

Just wanted to say that according to Andy I am to blame for the recent slide and Noah injury. All I can say is your welcome.

I would say the HOF really needs to adjust when it comes to WR's. If Cris Carter and Tim Brown can't get in then only Jerry Rice should be in. Carter should have been a first ballot HOFer IMO and definitely have made it the second time around.

My two favorite teams, a.k.a an extremely sexy match-up. I like it but that is because it means I will most likely get that game in New Orleans.