Derwood
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sure, let them transfer
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so the football team, what, forfeits their last 3 games? tough to play with no coaching staff for athletic department who cares what they do? i mean, besides psu fans. football is not important here. I'm just laying out what is under consideration. Again, this would punish a bunch of kids who had nothing to do with any of this. Rash decisions seem imprudent if paterno himself were the rapist here, and it were proven that his staff all collaborated with him, would you keep them on for the last 3 games because the players don't deserve it? so we're dealing in hypotheticals now?
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so the football team, what, forfeits their last 3 games? tough to play with no coaching staff for athletic department who cares what they do? i mean, besides psu fans. football is not important here. I'm just laying out what is under consideration. Again, this would punish a bunch of kids who had nothing to do with any of this. Rash decisions seem imprudent
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so the football team, what, forfeits their last 3 games? tough to play with no coaching staff for athletic department
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I think you're going to see public sentiment (especially in PA) turn against Paterno as the days go by. I saw it here in Columbus with the Pryor/Tressell stuff. At first, it was pointing fingers away from the university and disbelief (including blind support for OSU), but as the facts came out and time wore on, the sentiment here turned from denial to anger to acceptance, and now most people are glad Pryor and sweater vest are gone
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I don't think anyone is arguing against that
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you want them to get their lynchin' ropes and rassle up a posse? If enough people wanted him gone for long enough, he'd be gone. A posse isn't necessary. It's been less than a week. He won't last
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you want them to get their lynchin' ropes and rassle up a posse?
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so that's why most people wanted him gone 10 years ago? because they're blind sycophants? I said there are a decent amount of people who aren't blind sychophants. Allowing him to bully his way into staying after this acts occured on his watch within his facilities would only happen because of the blind sychophants that allowed him to become god there. he's not god there. maybe among the idiot 18 year olds he is, but not the actual adults
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so that's why most people wanted him gone 10 years ago? because they're blind sycophants?
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The reports from people who grew up there support the JoePa is god viewpoint. Did you grow up there? I lived there from 1986-1992, and then 2005-2008 My parents lived there from 1986-2011
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it's funny to read people talking about how he's seen in State College when they've never lived in State College. by most accounts, the folks in SC are outraged at all of this
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So if Sandusky offs himself tomorrow, the NCAA can never act on this? You're conflating both what the NCAA can do versus a school, and the repercussions for NCAA violations versus legal/moral violations. This isn't Jim O' Brien at Ohio State. I'm wondering if the NCAA, in good faith, sanction a school for crimes that haven't been proven. Seems like a slippery slope if you're going to start doing that
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seriously?
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I'm not arguing senility, I'm arguing naivety (or his being sheltered from the situation). Going back to the possible NCAA involvement, anything that might happen won't (can't?) happen until Sandusky is actually tried and found guilty. That looks like it's 100% going to happen, but as long as (legally) everything is just "alleged", there isn't much the NCAA can (or should) do
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I'm moving towards the "Paterno doesn't understand the gravity of the situation" camp and away from the "Paterno maliciously hid evidence" camp the more I see and read about the situation
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It reads worse than it sounds. In the audio clip, it was less him dismissing the allegations and more him focusing on the support of the kids instead of the allegations, if that makes sense I get that's what he meant. It just comes off as kind of foot-in-mouthy. Not a big deal in the long run. When I read it, I thought it was pretty bad. I then heard the clip on the radio, and it wasn't as bad
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It reads worse than it sounds. In the audio clip, it was less him dismissing the allegations and more him focusing on the support of the kids instead of the allegations, if that makes sense
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I'm just looking ahead and seeing a bunch of student athletes who had nothing to do with this get punished
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well we'll see how it plays out, but I think this is a unique situation that's not so clear cut in terms of how the NCAA becomes involved. If the assaults/rapes were a) by an active coach and b) committed against student athletes, I think there's no question about their involvement. This case, however, seems murky at best.
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so if you run practice and coach the kids all week but don't call the plays you're not coaching? When's the last time JoePa legitimately ran a practice? his current leg/hip injury was because he got hit during a practice. maybe he's doing nothing, but maybe he's coaching during the week, game planning, etc. I have no idea. But the fact is, he's NEVER worn a headset or held a play list, but no one questioned whether he was coaching until he became and old man
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If Ron Zook murdered some people and he was busted shortly thereafter while the school and program cooperated with the investigation I doubt the NCAA would get involed. If his assistant murdered somebody and he knew it and he tried to sweep it under the rug and they found out by other witnesses a decade from now, and he was still there, i think it might be more likely they would get involved. But again, how does it involve the football program or university (outside of Zook working for them)? Everyone involved should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but why should the students in the football program suffer because the AD and President of Penn State are cretins?
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so if you run practice and coach the kids all week but don't call the plays you're not coaching?
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I'm conflicted about how the NCAA should deal with this. What is the precedent as far as members of a football program coaching staff committing criminal acts unrelated to the program. How did the NCAA get involved? If Ron Zook murdered someone, would there be NCAA sanctions on Illinois because he's the coach? Can the NCAA apply sanctions to the school because they didn't "do the right thing morally"? Not sure where this will lead
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having the punter run around would have been the most [expletive] thing ever.
