hey, you guys have had 3 winning seasons the last 15 years or so. that's not horrible, i guess. actually it's probably worst in the BigTen, but it's probably better than Vanderbilt or something. I almost feel like we are as bad as Iowa basketball, except we have athletes playing for us. Iowa basketball has had 12 winning seasons the last 15 years though, so I'm not sure I understand. I meant during the Big 10. When you can't play cupcakes. It's really hard to have a losing record as a BCS basketball school. 7 out of 15 then.