Vanilla Ice

Looks like Cal might go down to Colorado tonight. Finally bumping Washington from our S-Curve EDIT: Should we include Miami in the Rank 16 list? Seems like they are generally thought of in the same tier as the other 5

At the same time, those 8 losses came against 5 top 10 teams, 2 more top 30 teams, and Virginia (who they just beat). Seems like they've shown themselves to be incapable of beating the top 10 and capable of knocking off teams a little bit lower than that. Of those 8 losses, Pomeroy actually has Florida St. ranked the lowest at 28.

I agree with you for the most part. However, I think there is something to the idea that if you are noticing an outlier in your individiual rankings, it might be worth a closer look to see if you missed anything. For instance, Lunardi had Tennessee much higher in his rankings than I did. That prompted me to look more closely at Tennessee's resume and I noticed that I think I was wrong on them.

Good points about St. Louis. I definitely still have them in, but much closer to 11/12 than 9.

I actually kinda like Xavier's resume more than St. Louis'. I don't get how St. Louis is being considered a lock or for a 9 seed.

Welp, so much for St. Joe's

Agreed, I think Washington needs to be dropped down. I think NCSU, Miami, and Xavier should all join Washington with a loss today. Still not sold that Drexel should be there.

Wow. So UMass back to the consideration pool, Temple out of the S-Curve? I'd fight for FSU or KSU Agreed on UMass. Still don't have them in, but another win might change that. I think I'd fight for UNLV for Temple's spot

Temple loses to UMass

John Henson leaves the UNC-Maryland game in the first half with a wrist injury. Out for the rest of the game.

I had already accounted for Marquette's loss to Louisville in my rankings, FWIW. I think St. Joe's should be moved back into the discussion. Two top-25 wins (Temple/Creighton) is more than a bunch of other teams can say (NCSU/NW/Washington/Miss St.). Yeah, they have their bad losses, but not worse than a bunch of other teams (Miss St./Dayton/Tennessee). Add in head-to-head wins over Drexel and Dayton and a quality non-conference schedule and I think they deserve to be bumped up a group. I'd argue Seton Hall deserves to be in over Washington (along with Tennessee, St Joe's, Miss. St., and Northwestern). Washington's lone RPI top 50 win is at home against Oregon (#49) and they only have 4 top 100 wins, plus 2 100+ losses in their last 2 games. Seton Hall has four wins over tourney teams (Georgetown/UConn/VCU/WVU) and only one more loss against 100+ teams. I think I would throw Tennessee or St. Joe's over Drexel, too. Drexel has only one top 50 win, which has a lot to do with their conference. However, they did not help themselves by playing only the 218th hardest non-conference schedule. Once again, only 4 top 100 wins, plus 3 100+ losses. I made my case for St. Joe's above, but Tennessee has 4 wins over strong tournament teams (Vandy/Florida 2x/UConn). The major mark against them is the 4 100+ losses, but 3 of those came before Christmas and the other was in the middle of January. Just my 2 cents. EDIT: IF UCF or Marshall wins tomorrow, but loses in the C-USA Championship, I think one of them would be worth discussing again.

Of course, SDSU responds by needing a last second shot to beat Boise State and Louisville goes up big against Marquette. I've got them out after that loss. NW might be joining them if they can't beat Minnesota here.

Allow me to go to bat for San Diego St. a little bit here. 2-4 record against the RPI top 25 (wins over UNLV/Colorado St.) 5-5 record against the RPI top 50 3-0 record against the RPI 51-100 One loss against the RPI top 100+ (2 point loss to Air Force) Compare that to somebody like Florida 1-4 record against the RPI top 25 (win over Florida St.) 3-5 record against the RPI top 50 6-2 record against the RPI 51-100 Two losses against the RPI 100+ (Georgia and Rutgers) Or Louisville 1-5 record against the RPI top 25 (win over Memphis) 4-7 record against the RPI top 50 6-1 record against the RPI 51-100 One loss against the RPI top 100+ (31 point loss to Providence)

Yeah, mine weren't in order because I figured all 16 of those teams could be pretty safely cut

Mine? How little I liked St. Louis' resume. Also, I am a UNC student now so kinda changed my allegiances..

Also, how many people do we have this year?

That will sort itself out in subsequent stages, trust me. Yeah, I just remember looking through their resume and being surprised how weak it looked to me

Don't think Florida belongs in the top 16...

Another group of blind bubble teams Team RPI SOS NC SOS R/N Top 25 Top 50 Top 100 L100+ L200+ A 68 102 319 8-5 2-2 5-4 7-6 3 1 B 77 117 75 7-7 0-1 1-4 5-9 2 1 C 60 48 129 6-8 1-2 4-7 7-8 3 0 D 37 91 71 6-7 0-2 2-3 7-6 2 0 E 44 13 35 8-7 1-3 4-7 9-10 2 0 F 30 96 186 9-5 0-1 0-2 9-5 2 1 G 42 83 230 9-5 1-5 2-5 7-6 2 0 H 53 40 100 5-8 2-4 2-7 3-10 1 0 I 53 82 55 6-7 0-2 1-6 4-8 1 0 J 72 63 90 6-7 1-1 3-2 8-7 4 2 K 65 91 185 5-8 1-4 2-5 3-6 3 0 L 64 66 188 6-7 0-2 3-4 8-8 2 0

A E D B F H K L I J G C

I ended up with 32 at-large locks and absolutely nobody else I felt deserved to get in at all. Conference tournament week may reveal more than usual this year. I ended up with 32 at-large locks and then about 5 other teams that I think deserve to and will get in. After that, I have no idea.

I'm not so sure about that

Yes is true but its really hard to say someone is tourney caliber when they can only manage 2 wins against the 12 likely tourney teams they play in a season. Their RPI (however useless it is) and SOS is good but I can't see the committee choosing NUs resume over a bubble team with a similar resume. I hope I'm wrong though because I really want NU to make it. I think you are overestimating who the teams are that they are competing with for the 66th, 67th, and 68th spots

I think I take Team B's resume here. However, knowing who these teams are, I take Team A, considering recent performance.

Me too. My (poorly worded) argument was that Belmont should be included with these other teams.