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these damn foul balls are killing hill. only one (maybe two) balls have been hit hard off him.

he is. were you saying this back in april when zambrano sucked? Yes, because one month is just that. Z has what, 70 wins in his career more than Hill? Oh and he is younger to boot. At no point in his career will Rich HIll be a better pitcher than Z. Here in about another month this season won't even be close. what's all that crap have to do with who should be an all-star in '07?

he is. were you saying this back in april when zambrano sucked? for crying out loud they both have sucked this year at times. Zambrano earlier, Hill today. and looking at the first half as a whole, hill has been better.

is this sarcasm? i sure hope so.

he is. were you saying this back in april when zambrano sucked?

who needs a catcher? hill's winning percentage is through the roof.

I may be out of the loop here, so forgive me if I'm offending anyone, but is Vance not playing any longer? No, Juan made a change. I've had the same problem w/ trade requests with that team as well. Who has the Severe Tooterstorms? Haven't heard back anything from him either. i never have much luck with either of those teams.

i guess i agree with you to some extent. i'm likely not going to be making any blind offers on a player in a set up like this. i at least want to hear a starting point from the seller. i want to see the offers i'm competing with...i'm not going to be dragged into "i'm not going to tell you what this really great deal i've got on the table is, but let's just say it's going to be real hard to beat" situations. i'm not necessarily ethically opposed to it, i'm just not going to participate.

i don't have a problem with auctioning off players, but it's frustrating (as a buyer) to not know what i'm bidding against. in that way, it's not like the major leagues. i could be offering way more than what everyone else has offered. or i may not make an offer, thinking that i couldn't compete with what's out there, and then when i see what it took i'm pissed. i usually find it easiest to deal with guys in situations like this when they tell me what their other offers are.

if i knew what your offer was i could tell you if i could beat it.

he's 13th in the NL in walks. Cause he's living off of his past accomplishments and teams are still pitching him cautiously. so? he's still being patient.

and hill has a 140 era+. hill's gonna get screwed by the cubs' offense.

he's 13th in the NL in walks.

i've said that matt capps is available, but nobody seems interested...

what difference does it make what the title of the thread is? is it not accurate? the trade was called off, presumably by the general manager, who is the person in charge of making or not making trades. i mean, hendry is the one that called it off, no?

yeah, because car transactions between neighbors is JUST like player transactions between major league teams. come on.

avenge my death.

Murton in Iowa solid 6/4 BB/K ratio; doubles power and fairly low BABIP. I want to see him get that GB% lower.... maybe Von Joshua can help him add a little loft to his swing. He'll never be a big power guy, but hopefully he can be a doubles hitter like a Grace or Overbay. it seems like he's always hit a crap load of ground balls. worked out well for him at first because he always had a ton of infield hits, if i remember correctly.

Yeah, so much for adding onto payroll like Hendry has said over and over again. And we're pretty much stuck with Jones if Zell won't let the Cubs eat his contract. Fun times. As people have stated previously, I don't think this is Hendry's fault. And moreover, I don't think he knew about the inability to take on payroll until this deal. Talk about a wake-up call you don't want when your job is on the line. How is this not Hendry's fault. He signed Jones to a stupid 3yr. contract that he can't get out from under unless he pays virtually all of it for another team. It's another poor move by a gm who's really a glorified scout (one that goes on instinct and little based on stats) who's in over his head. Beinfest was raking Hendry over the coals for the 3rd time --Willis deal, Pierre deal and now this. Zell was making both a financial and a baseball decision, in my opinion, by rejecting this deal. It made no sense. Just take a step back and really think about the scenario--pay a player almost 90% of his salary while he's playing for someone else and get little to nothing in return. and like everyone's said, that beats paying him 100% of his salary and getting nothing in return. it's not hendry's fault the trade got vetoed, but it is his fault that he gave jones a terrible contract.

We've heard that it's a lefty from low-A Greensboro, so if that's true, it eliminates Ungs. So that then leaves Tom Cowley (age 23) - 65.1 IP, 3.31 ERA, 49 K/18 BB Avi Rasowsky (age 24) - 19.1 IP, 5.59 ERA, 20 K/7 BB For the amount the Cubs are paying the Marlins should do better than that. Not as good as Sean West, mind you, but better than that. Aaron Thompson please. He is a lefty and in Single A, however, it's High A Jupiter and not low A Greensboro. Maybe someone got their facts mixed up? I sure hope so. If we're picking up almost all of Jones contract, we better get a solid prospect back. i don't know why people keep saying this. if the cubs were taking on a multi-year obligation to a past his prime OF with an OPS of .600, would you expect the cubs to give up somebody good to get him? No, but Jones had a decent season last year. It depends how much we pay him. If the Marlins still have to pay 2-3 mil then I don't expect much back. But if they pay less then that, then we should get a decent prospect in return. Otherwise, it doesn't make sense to trade him to a potential wild card contender and pay for him to potentially revert back to his form of last year and become somewhat productive. I'd rather cut him than pay for him to play somewhere else. there's really no difference between cutting him + paying him his contract while he signs with florida for $500k and paying him to pay for florida.

No kidding. If the Cubs are paying the majority of the salary, they better get something good in return. You don't get throw away prospects and pay for all the salary. wanna bet? the cubs were desperate to get rid of jones, he's not very good, he's expensive, and he's got another year on his contract. the cubs will pay a bunch of $ and likely get very little in return. Then we should have DFAed him and released him a long time ago. Why pay the Marlins to have a potentially productive player in their lineup for the rest of the year and all of next year for nearly no cost? because that's what you do when you sign bad players like jones to bad contracts and then build your roster in such a way as to inevitably cause a huge cluster f.

We've heard that it's a lefty from low-A Greensboro, so if that's true, it eliminates Ungs. So that then leaves Tom Cowley (age 23) - 65.1 IP, 3.31 ERA, 49 K/18 BB Avi Rasowsky (age 24) - 19.1 IP, 5.59 ERA, 20 K/7 BB For the amount the Cubs are paying the Marlins should do better than that. Not as good as Sean West, mind you, but better than that. Aaron Thompson please. He is a lefty and in Single A, however, it's High A Jupiter and not low A Greensboro. Maybe someone got their facts mixed up? I sure hope so. If we're picking up almost all of Jones contract, we better get a solid prospect back. i don't know why people keep saying this. if the cubs were taking on a multi-year obligation to a past his prime OF with an OPS of .600, would you expect the cubs to give up somebody good to get him?

We've heard that it's a lefty from low-A Greensboro, so if that's true, it eliminates Ungs. So that then leaves Tom Cowley (age 23) - 65.1 IP, 3.31 ERA, 49 K/18 BB Avi Rasowsky (age 24) - 19.1 IP, 5.59 ERA, 20 K/7 BB Cowley please, I guess. really?

No kidding. If the Cubs are paying the majority of the salary, they better get something good in return. You don't get throw away prospects and pay for all the salary. wanna bet? the cubs were desperate to get rid of jones, he's not very good, he's expensive, and he's got another year on his contract. the cubs will pay a bunch of $ and likely get very little in return.

they also just said that soriano is one of the top five players in baseball. they're hard to listen to.