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But that thread has only been there for 5 years. It's my one and only claim to fame.
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This is terrible basketball. Lousy defense and so many missed open jumpers.
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That is the one thing that swings the percentages...from 0% to something? Ask yourself how last years team fared. Then ask yourself what has changed from last seasons team to this seasons team. When you answer the question, you then form a logical opinion. We beat them pretty bad in one game and then played a slew of pretty close games, a couple of which could have gone either way. Derrick looked exhausted. Boozer and Noah looked injured/terrible. Korver shot well below his career/season/playoff averages. Asik was out. Bogans got significant minutes. Those things have changed or will hopefully change. If Derrick is healthy, we have A CHANCE.
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For the record, which line of thought do you subscribe to? The Bulls have a great chance of beating the Heat? Or the Bulls have a slim chance of beating the Heat? I've said they have no chance of beating the Heat in a 7 game series as currently constructed. At the very least, you have to respect that I've made my pick and I'll stand by it. No, because to say right now they have absolutely no chance to beat another team in a 7 game series is absurd. It's bold yes, but it's something that I believe. Now answer my question 8-) No, it's ABSURD. Maybe it's a matter of semantics that you're not understanding, but saying the Bulls have absolutely no chance (as in a 0% probability) of beating the Heat in a 7 game series is just wrong.
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LOL
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what happened to Omer?
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I have no doubt they'll get there. The only tough games left are @ATL, @OKC, vs MIA, @MIA, vs DAL, @IND.
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It's not just European athletes.
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I don't think he's going to be anything special. More AJ Feely or Kevin Kolb than Matt Schaub.
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Sure if you like your superstar PG healthy. Well, I do, which is why I welcome him sitting given the position that they're in. Obviously if he's too injured to play. But it's still unfortunate that he's injured bad enough to miss 5+ games.
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The sounds blows it away. It sounds like there's actually people there when it's nationally broadcasted.
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You don't think it's possible that he's never gotten his game back fully since his hand injury at the start of that season? Ultimately, it doesn't even matter that much offensively. I could deal with what he brings offensively if his defense was there. But it's not. He's a major hole in the Bulls defense, and that much I'll grant, is nothing new for him. He's always been a poor defender. And I think he's getting worse at it. I guess it is possible. I don't know. He's dealt with a lot of injuries throughout his career so there's really no way for me to know. Agree about the defense. Regardless, this all stemmed from the discussion of Boozer, Sessions, and the Bobcats pick for Gasol. According to the ESPN trade machine (which uses PER) trading Gasol for Boozer and Sessions would improve their projected win total by 6 wins. I know it isn't the most accurate measure in the world, but it still demonstrates how bad their PG play is and how much adding Sessions will compensate for the downgrade from Gasol to Boozer. Add in getting a pick that could be very valuable in a few years (just in time to replace Kobe) and I don't think it's ludicrous to think the Lakers may consider that.
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Two posts up you said he's the same player he was in Utah. Either he is or he isn't. He is the same player. When did I say he is not?? Just because his production and efficiency are down does not mean he is a worse player or he has lost his skill or whatever people are trying to argue. He's the same player, just not as good. Got it. Banedon, he's saying that Boozer hasn't actually declined, but that his numbers are down because of the team change and an offense that doesn't suit him as well. He's the same player, but placed in a bad situation that has caused his efficiency and productivity to go down. If he changed teams, he would return to the player he was in Utah. I have no idea if it's actually true or not (some people have posted some very good counterarguments that suggest his team isn't the problem), but it's a logically consistent argument. Thank you. I find it more likely that his situation (playing with a center who clogs the lane, wings who can't dribble or create, and a PG who is not primarily a distributor) has changed how he plays rather than his skills have diminished from April 2010 to October 2010.
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I said his production and efficiency are down. Two posts up you said he's the same player he was in Utah. Either he is or he isn't. He is the same player. When did I say he is not?? Just because his production and efficiency are down does not mean he is a worse player or he has lost his skill or whatever people are trying to argue. He's the same player, just not as good. Got it. Read CCP's post below or Ryan's post above.
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I said his production and efficiency are down. Two posts up you said he's the same player he was in Utah. Either he is or he isn't. He is the same player. When did I say he is not?? Just because his production and efficiency are down does not mean he is a worse player or he has lost his skill or whatever people are trying to argue.
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I said his production and efficiency are down.
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And why do you think he can't finish now but could in Utah? Read the above post? He was younger and maybe was able to finish with a dunk more then 2 times a year? He's the same freaking player now than he was in Utah 2 seasons ago.
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Exactly.
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And why do you think he can't finish now but could in Utah?
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The Bulls' primary offensive option is the pick-and-roll, and the Bulls' pick and roll offense is the most efficient P&R in the NBA. So...Rose and the scheme aren't the problem here. I didn't say they didn't run the PnR enough, I said they didn't run it with Boozer enough. Lately I've seen Boozer running it a lot more, which is why I think he's been playing better. What is your hypothesis for Boozer's decreased production and efficiency then? He was injured last year and has no lift left in his legs. He doesn't play above the rim, so his offensive production is reduced to long-range 2's. He's still a really good rebounder for positioning, but he's terrible on help defense. He's never had lift or played above the rim. I swear it's like some of you guys never watched Carlos Boozer play basketball before he came to the Bulls. Yeah in his younger years he was a little more athletic, but his last few years in Utah he was the same guy you're seeing now. He was just utilized more effectively.
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And Derrick is not a great PnR point guard, regardless of what the numbers say. Of course it's efficient when the play is setting a pick (which isn't even necessary) and letting Derrick drive to the basket. He's one of the greatest finishers in the league and draws a lot of fouls on contact at the rim.
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The Bulls' primary offensive option is the pick-and-roll, and the Bulls' pick and roll offense is the most efficient P&R in the NBA. So...Rose and the scheme aren't the problem here. I didn't say they didn't run the PnR enough, I said they didn't run it with Boozer enough. Lately I've seen Boozer running it a lot more, which is why I think he's been playing better. What is your hypothesis for Boozer's decreased production and efficiency then?
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He's doing that without a PG, and he's miles better defensively than Boozer. Also doing that in a Mike Brown "system" and knowing he's been dangled in trade talks all season. His efficiency will rocket if he's in a better situation, IMO. As would Boozer's. Boozer's in a bad situation? Offensively for him? Of course. Compare his numbers from Utah/Cleveland to what he's done here in the last year and a half. You really think he just lost all his talent in 1 offseason? The Bulls don't run nearly enough pick and roll with him and Derrick is not a great pick and roll point guard. He also has Noah clogging the lane, a point guard who either drives to the basket or shoots a 3, and a host of wing players that can't dribble or create a shot. It's far from an ideal scenario for Boozers offensive numbers.
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He's doing that without a PG, and he's miles better defensively than Boozer. Also doing that in a Mike Brown "system" and knowing he's been dangled in trade talks all season. His efficiency will rocket if he's in a better situation, IMO. As would Boozer's.
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He's doing that without a PG, and he's miles better defensively than Boozer. Which is why they're getting a solid PG and a very valuable asset in return. For money to match they'd probably also get Brewer or Korver, which also helps with their lack of depth.