I mean, it's a semantical nitpick, but Ross and Upton are a pair of 3+ win players, and Ross is controlled for several years. It'd take a decent size quality and quantity from the Cubs to get them. That seems pretty 'big' to me. That said, I'd prefer Ross/Kimbrel to Ross/Upton, myself. Holy crap, that guy thinks Ross and Upton wouldn't be big? It would be substantial, sure. But in the context of some kind of brewing blockbuster no, I don't think it's close. Even if you don't believe Ross' elbow is a grenade with the pin pulled, he's a mid-rotation starter, not a #1 or even a #2. And Upton, while he's not as bad as he has been the last two months (which is almost Castro bad) he's not an elite bat. He's also a rental - exactly the sort of player Theo said he wasn't going to pay big for. This isn't the sort of big deal you'd even consider including Baez in. You're probably thinking of Ross Ohlendorf and Melvin Upton. No, I don't think I'd give up Javy for those two guys. But Tyson Ross and Justin Upton are good. And I'd drive Javy and 3 of his closest friends to the airport myself if we could get them.