Have a seat, Neifi

Line has been terrible in pass protection by JF is holding onto the ball way too long and taking off and running way too often.

Ugh…

Yea, I didn't love the all-whites. My personal favorite has always been the all-blues, but doesn't seem like we* wear those all that often these days. * That's right, I said "we" as if I play on the team. Full disclosure: I do not.

Bears might try to stack the box like the Giants, but even then will it work? Iffy. Jones can run too. It feels kind of similar to the Bears. Which QB with a questionable future and limited talent can be carried to a win with the run game. Yea, this game feels like the Spider-Man meme. My prediction is (1) we’ll somehow pull this one out, (2) Fields will put up another poopy stat line, and (3) the cycle of Bears fan bickering with one another will continue on and on.

A stoppable force meets a movable object.

Not great, Bob.

Bears ownership wouldn't know good QB play if it was sitting in their lap, so nothing about that quote surprises me.

Our quest to reach 150 passing yards in a single game is looking up!

Dude, come on--literally, no one is saying that. There is a galactic amount of space between "I'm upset that Fields isn't going 25/32 for 350 yards and 3 TDs" (which no one is saying, as far as I can tell) and "I'm concerned that Fields is by far the worst quarterback in the league and is putting up historically bad numbers." Again, Lawrence was bad last year. Allen was bad in his second season, too. Etc., etc., etc. But those dudes at least completed passes and seemingly had the trust of their coaching staff to at least call pass plays in the first place.

As a Wake fan, that Clemson loss still stings.

Not going to touch the Grossman thing, but 100% agree with Hairyduck (1) that many if not most Bears fans are in serious "cope mode" with respect to Fields and are telling themselves every excuse in the book to avoid the obvious conclusion staring us right in the face, and (2) that Fields hasn't been "regular bad"--he's been, like, far and away the worst starting quarterback in the league. The thing that gets me the most are the Josh Allen and Jalen Hurts comparisons. Like, yea, those guys weren't great in year 2, but man oh man were they *way* more competent than Fields is now. Just as an off-hand example, here are Allen's first 3 games in his second year: 24/37 for 254 yards, 1 TD, 2 INTs, 6.9 yards/attempt 19/30 for 253 yards, 1 TD, 0 INTs, 8.4 yards/attempt 23/36 for 243 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 6.8 yards/attempt Full disclosure, Allen was horrific in his 4th game that season on a Fields-esque level--13/28 for 153 yards, 0 TDs, 3 INTs, 5.5 yards/attempt--but at least he was completing passes. I saw on Twitter that through 3 games, we have the fewest completions of any team through the first 3 games of the season since 1982.

Lol

Won't vouch for the rest of the thread, but the first post in this thread is pretty telling -- https://www.chicitysports.com/forum/threads/fields-week-2.90818/

Wait, so you're telling me that going all in and spending right up to the luxury tax line for a team with a ceiling of 47ish wins wasn't a great idea?

It dovetails with pre-draft chatter that Fields had/has "slow eyes" and was slow and/or ineffective at recognizing defenses, processing the field, going through his progressions, and knowing who's open (and who's not open) and when to throw (and when not to throw). That, at the end of the day, is the fundamental issue, at least from what I can tell by reading and listening to "takes" by various people who know more about football than I do or ever will.

This is the exact type of game the Bears usually find a way to scratch out, but man oh man would I be nervous picking this Bears offense at this point in time.

Is that bad? Seems bad.

gee...I wonder if its our young QB or lack of WR talent (?) My answer is...yes.

Saw someone post on Twitter that the Bears have 15 passing completions through 2 games, which is the fewest team completions through 2 games dating back to the year 2000. Not great.

This, to me, is the fundamental problem. I fully expected us to get stomped playing @ Packers in prime time, like we always do. But the fact that we spent almost the entire game down double digits and the coaching staff apparently still didn't trust Fields enough to call plays that theoretically would've involved a forward pass is, at least to me, rather concerning.

Please throw forward passes.

Courtney Cronin @CourtneyRCronin Some things to contextualize while watching back Bears-Packers -Justin Fields has longest average time before pass in the NFL at 3.26 seconds -His off-target percentage (30%) is the 2nd highest in NFL -Per Next Gen, avg. separation on Fields' targets is 3.3 yards (4th highest) 3:42 PM 9/19/22

Yea, you said it much better than I've tried to. We as fans are looking for hope. The coaching staff is trying to win games. The coaching staff believes the best way to reach its goal is to essentially make Fields make as few decisions as possible and throw as few passes as possible. We as fans (or at least, most of us) understand that success in the NFL all but requires top-tier quarterback play. We understand we're not getting that now and that it's highly unlikely we'll get that at any point this season. But it'd be nice to know if there is any chance we *ever* get that with Fields. I'd rather know the answer definitively--even if that answer is no--than scratch out 7 or 8 wins with gimmicky sets, an old-timey run-based approach, and 10 passing attempts a game. None of those things (individually or collectively) prove or disprove whether Justin Fields can actually be a starting NFL quarterback and would/will simply leave us back where we started--"too soon to tell," "needs more time," "can't evaluate him with this supporting cast," "needs an opportunity to show what we can do in a 'real' offense," etc. etc. etc.

Yea, this is kinda where I'm at. Try running a modern offense and see what happens. If Fields goes 11/25 for 107 yards and 3 INTs every game, with every completion to his first read, and consistently taking sacks he shouldn't while failing to recognize open WRs, then start sending all the scouts to Alabama games.

To address some of the straw men floating around, I certainly am not expecting Fields to be objectively *good* in year 2, with a new coaching staff and scheme, and barely replacement-level offensive talent at the other skill positions. The concern is the staff doesn’t seem to trust him to even *try* to run anything remotely resembling a modern NFL offense. Like, I can’t name a single WR on the Texans, or any WRs on the Cowboys other than Lamb. The Jaguars I guess have Christian Kirk, who’s fine. The Texans and Jaguars each have new staffs and offensive schemes in place this year. And yet somehow, those QBs are at least allowed to throw a pass every now and again. When Fields finally got his chance to run a sort-of/semi 2-minute drill at the end of last night’s game, it was…well, not great, Bob. For me the upshot is (1) this season is nothing if not an evaluation period to see if maybe, *maybe*, Fields *could* someday maybe potentially possibly could be the guy, and yet (2) the scheme seems built entirely around “protecting” him from having to make the kinds of decisions and the sorts of throws he’d need to make to help answer that question. The world isn’t ending, we were always going to lose last night’s game, and the entire offensive side of the roster blows. But all that having been said, I am increasingly fearful that the reason for (2) above is that we are suffering through another Trubisky situation where the staff has seen enough to determine (in its opinion) that Fields just ain’t ever gonna be that guy. Sincerely hope I’m wrong.