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Would have been? I'd still do that deal.

Sounds somewhat correct. The last player we opend up the bank for was, GASP, Eric Milton.

If the Cubs had signed him for that deal, this board would have melted down with the people who hated the deal. Many people on this board don't like committing a decent percentage of the payroll to the bullpen to the first place. They also don't like multi-year deals for relievers. They also don't like signing guys in their 30's to long-term contracts. Finally, many think the position of closer is overrated to begin with. Cordero fits under all of the above, and while he'll likely be pretty productive he's not productive enough to be that big of a percentage of the Reds overall payroll. What? You are talking about a team that was 29th in baseball in blown saves last year. A blown save can occur pretty much anytime a starter leaves the ballgame. Most are not necessarilly even the fault of the "closer." Ya think? The Reds issue really wasn't closer last year. Weathers was 33/38 in saves. However, this allows the Reds to move Burton to the 7th, Weathers to the 8th, and Cordero to the 9th. It lines up the middle innings nicely. That's the point. but you're paying 12 mil a year for it! that's what makes it a bad idea. Yeah, if we could have signed the cheap stud closer I'm sure we would have. You could have traded one of your OF's though and gotten a cheap elite reliever plus probably another piece or two. Then you could have taken the money that you saved from trading that OF plus the money you had to spend this offseason and spent it on either a starting pitcher or more offense. The team doesn't need more offense and the starting pitchers are all trash. What starter do you have in mind? Loshe? Silva?

If the Cubs had signed him for that deal, this board would have melted down with the people who hated the deal. Many people on this board don't like committing a decent percentage of the payroll to the bullpen to the first place. They also don't like multi-year deals for relievers. They also don't like signing guys in their 30's to long-term contracts. Finally, many think the position of closer is overrated to begin with. Cordero fits under all of the above, and while he'll likely be pretty productive he's not productive enough to be that big of a percentage of the Reds overall payroll. What? You are talking about a team that was 29th in baseball in blown saves last year. A blown save can occur pretty much anytime a starter leaves the ballgame. Most are not necessarilly even the fault of the "closer." Ya think? The Reds issue really wasn't closer last year. Weathers was 33/38 in saves. However, this allows the Reds to move Burton to the 7th, Weathers to the 8th, and Cordero to the 9th. It lines up the middle innings nicely. That's the point. it's also possible that a bigger problem for the reds last year was the pitcher's work from innings 1-6. It was also part of the problem, which again, is why I said we need to trade one of our surplus of outfielders for another starter. However the bullpen was also a big, if not bigger, part of the problem. I would much rather give this money to Cordero then Silva or Loshe.

While I'm not high on the NL Central as a whole (I think right now the Brewers are the team to beat at this stage of the off-season), Cincy isn't in a position to win it all and should be concentrating more on building a young offensive core (which they have) and more importantly having the ability to lock them up. Allocating that much of the payroll on a closer might prevent that from occuring. While it fills a hole, who's to say that Burton could not have become the closer and addressed a 7th inning reliever/set-up guy much cheaper. Cincy isn't a team that I suspect would be successful overall trying to outspend teams for the best FA reliever avail. Every team in the central has a chance to win it all. All you have to do is get in the playoffs and anything can happen.

If the Cubs had signed him for that deal, this board would have melted down with the people who hated the deal. Many people on this board don't like committing a decent percentage of the payroll to the bullpen to the first place. They also don't like multi-year deals for relievers. They also don't like signing guys in their 30's to long-term contracts. Finally, many think the position of closer is overrated to begin with. Cordero fits under all of the above, and while he'll likely be pretty productive he's not productive enough to be that big of a percentage of the Reds overall payroll. What? You are talking about a team that was 29th in baseball in blown saves last year. A blown save can occur pretty much anytime a starter leaves the ballgame. Most are not necessarilly even the fault of the "closer." Ya think? The Reds issue really wasn't closer last year. Weathers was 33/38 in saves. However, this allows the Reds to move Burton to the 7th, Weathers to the 8th, and Cordero to the 9th. It lines up the middle innings nicely. That's the point. but you're paying 12 mil a year for it! that's what makes it a bad idea. Yeah, if we could have signed the cheap stud closer I'm sure we would have.

If the Cubs had signed him for that deal, this board would have melted down with the people who hated the deal. Many people on this board don't like committing a decent percentage of the payroll to the bullpen to the first place. They also don't like multi-year deals for relievers. They also don't like signing guys in their 30's to long-term contracts. Finally, many think the position of closer is overrated to begin with. Cordero fits under all of the above, and while he'll likely be pretty productive he's not productive enough to be that big of a percentage of the Reds overall payroll. What? You are talking about a team that was 29th in baseball in blown saves last year. A blown save can occur pretty much anytime a starter leaves the ballgame. Most are not necessarilly even the fault of the "closer." Ya think? The Reds issue really wasn't closer last year. Weathers was 33/38 in saves. However, this allows the Reds to move Burton to the 7th, Weathers to the 8th, and Cordero to the 9th. It lines up the middle innings nicely. That's the point. No offense, but what makes you so confident about Stormy Weathers in the 8th inning? His time with the Reds leaves me no reason to be confident with him. And it really could be Weathers in the 7th and Burton in the 8th.

If the Cubs had signed him for that deal, this board would have melted down with the people who hated the deal. Many people on this board don't like committing a decent percentage of the payroll to the bullpen to the first place. They also don't like multi-year deals for relievers. They also don't like signing guys in their 30's to long-term contracts. Finally, many think the position of closer is overrated to begin with. Cordero fits under all of the above, and while he'll likely be pretty productive he's not productive enough to be that big of a percentage of the Reds overall payroll. What? You are talking about a team that was 29th in baseball in blown saves last year. A blown save can occur pretty much anytime a starter leaves the ballgame. Most are not necessarilly even the fault of the "closer." Ya think? The Reds issue really wasn't closer last year. Weathers was 33/38 in saves. However, this allows the Reds to move Burton to the 7th, Weathers to the 8th, and Cordero to the 9th. It lines up the middle innings nicely. That's the point.

The difference is, Cordero isn't trash. The reason we've had to get so many relievers is because they all suck.

If the Cubs had signed him for that deal, this board would have melted down with the people who hated the deal. Many people on this board don't like committing a decent percentage of the payroll to the bullpen to the first place. They also don't like multi-year deals for relievers. They also don't like signing guys in their 30's to long-term contracts. Finally, many think the position of closer is overrated to begin with. Cordero fits under all of the above, and while he'll likely be pretty productive he's not productive enough to be that big of a percentage of the Reds overall payroll. What? You are talking about a team that was 29th in baseball in blown saves last year.

It's a bad deal. Everyone on here hated the Eyre and Howry deals. A middle reliever should not be getting a contract that big. Cordero is a middle reliever? Stay Hot.

It's baseball. Show me a contract handed out in the free agent market that isn't bad. The Reds just signed the best pitcher off the market, and it fills a huge hole. The Reds can line up the bullpen with Burton, Weathers, and Cordero at the back end. Now, trade one of our extra outfielders for a decent starter and you are looking at a contender in the central next year.

lol @ Cubs fans talking about bad contracts. Why? Because they Cubs didn't get him?

From Rosenthal:

Maybe the Angels don't want to deal with Matthews and the juice?

But with Dusty as your manager, he'll be starting. Sure.

According to the Miami Herald, the Marlins may look to shop Dan Uggla in addition to Miguel Cabrera and Dontrelle Willis. The newspaper suggests that by dealing Uggla "the Marlins might be able to meet some of their needs," which include pitching and center field help. The team is said to be interested in Howie Kendrick in a potential Cabrera deal with the Angels, which would push Uggla out of the second base job.

Hatteberg is the perfect player to have off the bench.

over Hanley Ramirez? 296/.344/.531 vs .332/.386/.562 You decide.

I like Michael Bourn. Does Myers go back to starting?

I'd take a shot at them both, depending on the price of course. Wood interests me more then Prior does, but I wouldn't mind either of them.

I'm not sure if I would trade Keppinger alone for that package. Ok, I am joking just alittle. That isn't anywhere close to getting it "Dunn" though.

Harang not in the top 10? Lee ahead of Fielder?

Hahaha Touche.