Really? Sometime go look up batting averages and slugging percentages on 2-0 and 3-1 counts. I'm sure you can supply a real fascinating stat for me. I realize when the count is in your favor you'll have better results, but can you supply some stats for me when the hitter is consistently facing 1-2 and 0-2 counts, as well? I'm not looking up anything for you. Basically you are just changing the subject. As far as 1-2 and 0-2 counts, I agree hitters hit worse. All the more reason to not swing and miss at first pitches out of the zone. You seem to be missing the point which is, quite simply, only swing at pitches you can hit hard. rolling over on a first pitch is worthless. so is rolling over on a 7th pitch but at least you made the pitcher work and saw some pitches that may benefit you in your next at bat.