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  1. i dunno but id like see somoene do a study on pitchers who have the hitch thing in their shoulder like prior compared to none. keep the pap similar and see if they get hurt more. pitchers off the top of my head who have that hitch are fidrych, wainwright, reyes, and prior
  2. In who's eyes? In your eyes. In my eyes the ace is the pitcher Im most confident in from start to start and right now it's hands-down Rich Hill and has been since September. And Im not being negative on Big Z. Im not worried about his start, Rich Hill's just turned into Ben Sheets with his BB rate. What's it now? about 60:10 the last few months?
  3. At what point does Rich Hill become the ace of the team? He's outpitched Zambrano for awhile now. If you want to be sketchy, since late June 2006.
  4. he deserves to be booed. so does jim hendry.
  5. lets continue http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/what-pitch-counts-hath-wrought/ http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/what-pitch-counts-hath-wrought-part-deux/ i still cant believe bp uses pap because "31% of all injured pitchers had above average career PAP totals for their career pitch counts."
  6. and im sure he just picked guys that were notorious burnouts that he remembered. I am sure I can find a lot of guys who are not HOFers who had long careers. I found this quote weird: 31% of all injured pitchers had above average career PAP totals for their career pitch counts. Now, obviously, if 31% of all injured pitchers had above average career PAP totals for their career PCs, then that must mean that 69% of all injured pitchers had career PAP totals below their career pitch counts. The last statistic just shows that most pitchers now who are healthy are young and are getting babied more often. There's no doubt in my mind that average PAP per PC today is lower than it was fifteen years ago. Don't patronize me. I know exactly what PAP is and I know how it's calculated. Im not saying high stress pitches dont lead to injuries, im just saying its overblown. Minor league P injury rate is about the same as the rate in the majors. I highly doubt any minor league Ps have a very high PAP, which doesnt even kick in until 100 pitches. My point is that its more likely that the mechanics are the things that cause the injuries the most. Adding a lot of pitches to bad mechanics increases the likelihood of getting hurt. The pitches themself, probably dont mean much.
  7. good job contradicting that pitch counts lead to injuries. theyre saying a higher PAP vs average PAP for that PC leads to injuries, which says nothing about more pitches leading to injuries. i should also note that PAP can only be calculated since 1988 or so. PCs limits were already being introduced then. theres no way to compare the 60s and 70s when 150 pitches wasnt unheard of.
  8. You are such a word smith. Group research is only useful for making generalizations about a population. The fact that arm injuries occur after high innings pitched is not a group design question. Arm injuries are an individual phenonenon. and if we're saying that high PCs lead to injuries for pitchers...arent pitchers.....GASP PLURAL .....a group!?
  9. http://www.baseball-reference.com/p/palmeji01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/spahnwa01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/s/seaveto01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/kaatji01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/b/blylebe01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/r/roberro01.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/c/clemero02.shtml http://www.baseball-reference.com/j/jenkife01.shtml there i got eight who did the same and had nothing happen to them!!! so i must also be able to infer that pitchers who throw more innings when theyre young are durable until theyre 40 its the exact same line of reasoning you did omg lame
  10. lol the post above is hilarious and wrong. hilarious but wrong. wow.
  11. rich hill so he can marquis more starts!
  12. and there's something wrong with those observations? im kidding! :lol:
  13. i know youre talking to me. and i dont think its cool
  14. The world is full of know-it-alls when a guy has a bad outing. so ummmm having an era under 3.5 every season hurts fantasy teams eras? wow tough crowd. this isnt 1968 morons.
  15. fidrych had the same backside arm [expletive] thing that prior has. a couple other of those pitchers couldnt have tj because it wasnt around and clearly tj isnt PC related because look how many rps and minor league pitchers get it. but you can flip it around and look at all the healthy pitchers in the same decade...so you didnt show anything
  16. now we know not to trust injury reports...
  17. i think its time to start the 2008 free agency wish list thread
  18. At this point I'm not even mad. The Cubs do this so often it becomes funny. I am seriously laughing my ass off right now.
  19. whats the gameday link so i can have it in a tab?
  20. thanks you *places bj upton at 3b in fantasy league*
  21. It has some quality talent, but it's not one of the best systems in the league anymore. Not even close.
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