You really don't know what you're getting into. 1. I wasn't shown up. You just decided to post stupid crap that's worthless. I mean you didn't bring up defense, how he's the face of baseball to some million upon millions of Japanese baseball fans (with Hideki) and is one of the top five most scrutinized players in the world. I mean sure you thought it was just on the field OOPS..just with the bat. Nevertheless Ichiro's the best CF in the game according to VORP, WARP1, and WARP3. Since you love your WARP1 averages. Coming into the season. Ichiro: 7.6. Jeter: 6.5. Jeter's obviously a superstar and don't bring in the stupid crap about the media and the Yankees making Jeter a superstar. The Japanese media does the same thing to Ichiro. Theyre pretty comparable there. 2. Really I don't know the difference between WARP1, 2 and 3? You sure as hell don't. When comparing Ichiro to contemporaries outside of the AL YOU HAVE TO USE WARP2/3 (they're the same for all intents and purposes). See, when you calculate WARP you first have to calculate RARP and then scale it to wins starting with a worthless team of RPs. To calculate RARP you simply add PRAR, BRAR and FRAR. There inlies the problem with WARP1 when comparing Pujols to Ichiro, or Beltran to Ichiro. To find BRAR it's 5*(EqA^2.5-.23^2.5)*Outs. You have to use EqA. Fine and dandy. There are two different EqAs that BP uses on player cards. That's the real culprit here. EqA isn't a difficult stat to formulate, I've done it to Japanese players. To find EqA you take the raw EqA formula and then you compare it to league average for all hitters in the league. Next you do some other things, but they're irrelevant in this discussion. WARP1 uses just players from the AL for Ichiro and just players from the NL for Pujols. That's not even the real problem. For all teams in the NL the nine hole in the lineup is an automatic out, yet this is used to scale EqA >> BRAR >> WARP1. WARP2/3's EqA's baseline Raw EqA is the all time EqA for all players and is perfectly fine for comparing players at the same time. This is why when you look at, say Ichiro's player card his EqA jumps ten points but when you look at Pujols' his EqA is pretty much the same. I mean you can be ignorant and naive and say I don't know when to use various things, but I'm pretty sure I just slaughtered that opinion.