to be fair, his ERA is under 4.00 again after today, but yeah, he's not exactly a world champion 3rd starter Well to be even more fair, he's never been asked to be a No. 3 starter. He's been a pretty good number 5 guy IMO. Some days he gets rocked, some days he's OK, some days like today he's really good. Take a look at most teams fifth starter, not too many have an ERA under 4. Again, I'm not betting anything on any of his starts, but for a fifth starter he's been pretty good. how many teams have their 5 starter locked up for 3 years/21 mil it's sad to say but that will be the norm really soon for a fifth starter. Contracts are getting really out of control. e.g. Meche 11M per year Problem is, Meche has earned his 11M for this year, without a doubt. Meche earned his 11M (v. 7M Marquis salary), but Marquis hasn't? Meche: ERA: 3.69 WHIP: 1.32 Marquis: ERA: 3.92 WHIP: 1.27 I won't mention Wins and Losses because they aren't really relevant.