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when does fox release the bcs?

Thirty years ago, throwing a football across the line of scrimmage more than a handful of times didn't really involve a multimillion dollar investment taking vicious shots from the most freakish athletes on the planet. Tebow would never, ever, survive (as in have a career of meaningful length with adequate health) the sort of punishment in the NFL that he did in college. I doubt any QB could. last year everyone had andre woodson pegged as first rounder. rocket arm, tall, big, athletic. then they realized he took forever to get through his throwing motion and he got picked in the 6th or 7th round and got cut. tebow has the same throwing motion, but he's short and fat. he won't be a good NFL qb

My original point that hasn't wavered a bit was a suggestion that Big XII coaches probably weren't doing an adequate job of game planning (whether through effort or imagination) a defense for OU. It seems yours is that OU is just that good that no other conclusion can be drawn except that their offense is so overwhelming that defensive coordinators are totally blameless for their teams failures. This is in spite of a very recent history of OU having what were touted as world class offenses that played anywhere from atrocious to average against teams with good defenses (when the very biggest prizes in the sport were on the line, mind you). no my point is that OU's offense just might be a little more complex than "just slant routes!" and if it isn't, that the personnel just must be overwhelming because you'd think someone might have watched tape on them at some point in the year there was also that thing about the offense being one dimensional, but i think we've disproved that it's almost like you dont actually know what you're talking about The slant/crossing routes remarks were firmly tongue in cheek. I thought that was blindingly obvious. When I refer to them as "revolutionary" and "ground breaking" I'm being more than slightly facetious. I'll admit that I haven't watched every snap of OU football this year but I've watched quite a bit. Are my points about them using primarily (exclusively?) shot gun, lots of underneath/timing routes, not a huge emphasis on the deep ball, not a ton of motion/misdirection way off? Clearly you watch more Sooner football than I do so I'll just take it back if I'm wrong. From what I can gather, a huge portion of their attack involves Bradford sitting in the gun and picking apart a team to death. They execute it extraordinarily well. I only submit that defenses could do better and if they face Florida and Bama in the BCS title game it'll be much tougher slogging. well of course. are you trying to tell me that bama and florida play better defense than texas tech? heavens no what passing team doesn't pass out of the shotgun with a lot of underneath/timing routes? is there a team somewhere running nothing but go routes and just chucking it 40 yards downfield every time they don't line up in the i-form? anyway, it's not some mind-blowing, crazy-ass gimmick offense. it's a no-huddle, line-audible offense with great personnel at every position. it's overrated because people just look at the numbers sometimes without realizing that no one in the big 12 plays any defense, but it's still one of the best college offenses in the nation. i'd put OU, Florida and USC's offenses all in the same group. they all do different things but the end results are the same.

Anyways the OU passing game isnt very complicated. It's been running a bunch of patterns that end up where the DBs aren't and letting Bradford throw to them in fifteen yard windows. the actual routes aren't complicated, but whose are? it's not like anyone has WRs putting quintuple moves on anyone the no-huddle, constant-audible adjustment nature of our offense, to go along with a good-great running game and a great offensive line is a pretty tough thing to stop if it was as easy as just defending a slant route, it would have been done by now cutting it off is doable, but it's not like these defenses have been screwing around and not watching tape. like someone is going to just realize "DUDES, SLANT PASSES CRAP!" and everyone is going to feel like an idiot. "slant passes! jesus, we watched 100 hours of tape on OU and we never realized they ran slant routes!"

My original point that hasn't wavered a bit was a suggestion that Big XII coaches probably weren't doing an adequate job of game planning (whether through effort or imagination) a defense for OU. It seems yours is that OU is just that good that no other conclusion can be drawn except that their offense is so overwhelming that defensive coordinators are totally blameless for their teams failures. This is in spite of a very recent history of OU having what were touted as world class offenses that played anywhere from atrocious to average against teams with good defenses (when the very biggest prizes in the sport were on the line, mind you). no my point is that OU's offense just might be a little more complex than "just slant routes!" and if it isn't, that the personnel just must be overwhelming because you'd think someone might have watched tape on them at some point in the year there was also that thing about the offense being one dimensional, but i think we've disproved that it's almost like you dont actually know what you're talking about

oh i forgot, the offensive systems they ran those years are exactly the same as what they run this year oh crap no they aren't they're complete opposites crap i dont know what point you're trying to make, now. why don't you switch it up again

How did we get into Jason White? We all know he was never slowed down by good defenses. you mean the year he faced an epic lsu defense with a broken bone in his foot, an injured hand, an offensive line that wasn't as good as this years', a running game that isn't as good as this years' and a receiving corps that isn't as good as this years? i guess you could be talking about 2004, but that would be pretty dumb too, since everything i just said applies to that year, except for the running game which is this years' equal hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

PS i forgot to mention, watch out for those running backs, they've combined for 36 tds this year youre welcome for the tip

dear head coach, i watched part of an ou game this year all you need to do is stop their heisman trophy contending, record breaking qb from completing passes to his deep stable of talented receivers and to his awesome tight end while he's protected by the best offensive line in the nation don't thank me, i'm just here to help good luck in your future endeavors

i wonder if anyone's tried that this year you might want to start making some calls

do one dimensional offenses have two guys that will end the year with over 1,000 rushing yards and a QB with over 40 TD passes and over 4,000 yards passing with a 68.2 completion rate is that good does anyone know anyone maybe one dimensional means something else and im way off here

2004's run game averaged 208.4 yards per game That must mean Demarco Murray is just as good as Adrian Peterson. i thought your point was that ou is one dimensional and they can't run the ball as effectively as they did in 2004? where did the demarco murray - adrian peterson comparison come from? My point is that you can't say this year's OU ground attack is just as good as that year's OU ground attack because the numbers are the same. If that were true, you'd say it was irrelevant whether I had Murray/Brown back there or Peterson/Jones/Choice back there. Clearly that isn't the case. and you can't say that it's a one dimensional offense when they average 0.1 yards per carry less than they did in 2004 - a year that you called a "dominant ground game." Murray is no Peterson, but Brown is much better than Jones. And the offensive line this year is far better than 2004's, all parts of a picture that paint a run game that in no way makes OU's offense one dimensional.

hahaha, you can't even figure out what argument you're trying to make keeeeep reaching

that and the fact that they have good defensive players. i know less about florida than i do about usc, but usc's defense is really, really good.

2004's run game averaged 208.4 yards per game That must mean Demarco Murray is just as good as Adrian Peterson. i thought your point was that ou is one dimensional and they can't run the ball as effectively as they did in 2004? where did the demarco murray - adrian peterson comparison come from?

2004's run game averaged 208.4 yards per game 4.8 yards per rush in 2004, 4.7 yards per rush in 2008

203.8 rushing yards per game they'd probably run more often if they didn't complete 70 percent of their passes who knew a scouting report based on watching 2 hours of one game and not looking at any stats could be faulty

raisin delete this thread before the secret gets out

i just hope missouri (if we play them) and/or our bowl opponent don't read nsbb once they find out it's all slant routes we'll be sunk

oh crap its all slant routes we should have seen this!

well duh, no one in the big 12 is any good at defense. maybe you should give one of them a call im sure they could use the help

i don't understand your spaz attack no one is saying that ttu/osu defenses are equal to bama's or florida's, but do you really think OU's not a threat to put up 35+ on either of them? TCU and Texas have pretty solid defenses and they did that without even running the ball.

i know what you mean it's not like ou has the best QB in it's school history, an entirely senior offensive line that is probably the best in the nation, one of the top three TEs in the nation, a top-5 RB duo or a group of good, experienced WRs. you'd think OU had like, good players or something.

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BALL GAME and i could definitely see florida blow OU out. No one else, though. Well, USC maybe.