Ok? Wainwright and Carp are only signed through 2013. Molina and Berkman only through 2012. Freese is 29 and has all of 1 season's worth of PA in his career, and has been pretty much league average. They have no 2b or SS and a 2 win max CF skating by on a high BABIP. Miller is the real deal and Cox is a huge question mark. He's a 3rd baseman who OPS'd .787 in Springfield, which is a straight up launching pad. It was a highly flawed team with Pujols and will be without him. You keep throwing out the Ryan Theriot contract number for some reason, which makes no sense. It would have taken a 10 mil/year raise to match the Angels offer, which would get higher in later years since it would be backloaded. The Cardinals payroll has been right around 100 mil for the last few years. That represents at least 25% of their total roster. That's huge. Pujols was a 5 win player this year. He had a damn good season too. That's how hard it is to be a 5 win guy. I personally think he would come close to matching the value of the contract overall, but it would be by being worth a couple wins more than the AAV the first few years. And you're taking a huge risk with his nagging injuries etc. The rest of the stuff you wrote is pretty much BS. He doesn't have "value to the city" or [expletive] like that. He would put butts in the seats for short spurts when he gets really close to 5-6-700 HR and 3,000 hits, but a winning team in STL is going to draw more overall. If you think you can let him walk and field a more competitive team it's worth it from a fiscal perspective. The Cards revenue stream is pretty much maxed. They pull in 3 mil at the gate every year, but can't a huge TV deal because the market simply isn't there. And again, the 3.4 mil number is nonsense. QUIT IT WITH THE 3.4 MIL NONSENSE I'm not sure you'll find a single Cardinal fan who doesn't care. It's really just like 3 groups. 1. I hate that greedy [expletive] he's declining blah blah blah (denial) 2. Ownership should have given him whatever he wants he's teh best raise payroll 3 million fans every year intangibles Holliday isn't worth his contract I love Jon Jay (lunatics) 3. This sucks. This is a good and bad move for both parties and neither can be blamed. Likely a good bottom line baseball move long term, but [expletive] we just lost one of the best baseball players of all time. It hurts like hell. (realists) Personally, it's going to be straight up devastating to see him in an Angels uniform or realizing he's not there when we're down one with 2-3-4 due up in the 9th or a chopper gets through the hole to RF. Pujols has been a Cardinal since I was a SR in HS and he's always been there in my baseball nerdness. I hate everything right now. All my FB friends are going nuts one way or the other and have wondered why I'm not. But, I think being a message board baseball nerd is helping me out. We all walk the line of fan and pretend GM. I hate it as a fan but understand it as a pretend GM. I have no ill will against him, he's still my favorite player and will probably the greatest player of my lifetime (non Bonds division.) I'm just glad he happened to play for my favorite team in his absolute prime and thanks to current technology is got to watch him literally thousands of times. But this sucks balls.