Sammy Sofa

So why continue to subject yourself to "this place?" Pretty much all you've done since joining is pick fights, insult other posters and complan about how stupid everyone is and how awful this board is. Do yourself a favor.

Worlds colliding. Our universe is doomed.

The one time you went to the game there it was terrible. Imagine that forming an opinion on limited information. Actually, I've been to 7 games there, but thanks. Imagine forming an opinion about my opinion based on such limited information.

Yeah, this is honestly the first time I've heard someone say that the Marlins' current stadium is in a good location. Having been there myself, I'm sort of terrified to see what CubinNY thinks is a bad location.

omg, do you have a learning disability? no one is saying the cubs shouldn't have traded hill or that hill is currently awesome at pitching. omg srsly? lol my bff. where did i say anything like that? how about.... nowhere? if you're going to respond to my post... please actually respond to the post. In the above quoted post. The implication of "sticking up for him" is supposed to mean...what? Nobody is going out of their way to defend him when they simply point out what he was able to do before he flopped. and what's the point of pointing out what he was able to do before he became a guy who couldn't throw strikes? when someone says "god rich hill really sucks now" is it really necessary to have the same people over and over come and say "yeah well look what he did in 2007!!!" who cares what he did then? he's beyond pathetic now. cut the cord. Because it's gone beyond that to "he was never good," which simply isn't the case. That's what's being argued against. Nobody is propping up Hill now as some sure thing or trying to defend his performances over the last year. The issue is taken with the ridiculous argument along the lines that he was "never good" If this discussion frustrates you so much, it should be reasonably easy for you to avoid a thread clearly labelled to be about Hill.

Actually, it's not. Guys are able to sustain inflated careers and contracts on far less. this is stupid. baseball is a sport of longevity. if a guy says that he played pro ball for a year and a half, you would say that he was a pro baseball player for a very brief period? would you not? same thing. It's not the same thing, because we don't know yet if his career is done. And you're right about it being asport of longevity...hence why having sustained and noticeable success for a full season and the second half of the season before that IS impressive. That's not a brief period of time.

Actually, it's not. Guys are able to sustain inflated careers and contracts on far less.

omg, do you have a learning disability? no one is saying the cubs shouldn't have traded hill or that hill is currently awesome at pitching. omg srsly? lol my bff. where did i say anything like that? how about.... nowhere? if you're going to respond to my post... please actually respond to the post. In the above quoted post. The implication of "sticking up for him" is supposed to mean...what? Nobody is going out of their way to defend him when they simply point out what he was able to do before he flopped.

Probably because what you're ranting about isn't happening. There's an obvious difference between pointing out that the guy did have sustained success and wasn't a total failure his entire time as a Cub, as some seem to want to show, and declaring that he's "the greatest Cub ever."

We have?

I think the point is, that's the level of attendance they had during an actual game. I mean, they're playing baseball in that photo folks. I know, I've been there. If the Cubs played in a brutal pit like that in the weather Florida typically gets in the location that stadium is in, it would be a rarity when I got out for a game. It simply cannot be undersated how horrible that stadium is in every possible factor, from where it's located to simply being able to just sit there and not be miserable.

I don't see that as saying they were equals at all. That was a response to all the people saying they had "never liked Hill" for nebulous reasons pertaining more to assumptions about his mentality and personality than his actual performance.

Yeah, that stadium factor can't be understated. That place is Hell on Earth. Aren't their local TV/radio ratings actually really good?

Zambrano sucked for a lot of last season and 2007 was Hill's best year. So what's your point? Zambrano at his worst matches Hill at his best. I guess I can agree with that. Carlos Zambrano had a 4.52 ERA when removing his best month in 2007. Fine. You win. Rich Hill and Zambrano are equal pitchers. Next can we compare Ryan Theriot to Aramis Ramirez as hitters based on batting average? Almost everyone liked Rich Hill. Then he flamed out. I don't see why some people expect undying love and loyalty from all fans for a guy that had one pretty good season. Rich Hill was better in 2007 than Zambrano was in 2007 or 2008 If 2007 Rich Hill would like to come back I would love to see him in the rotation. I will also fill out that rotation with 1976 Mark Fidrych, 2003 Mark Prior and 1981 Fernando Valenzuela. Unfortunately, I want the 2009 versions of none of those pitchers taking the mound for the Cubs every 5th day. So again, I don't see what the point is. People liked Hill when he was good. Now that he can't throw strikes and has no options remaining, time to move on. Sean Marshall seems to have a chance to be a pretty comparable pitcher to the "good" Rich Hill. I would rather take my chances with him instead of having to sweat out every start with Hill and wonder if he is going to be effective. hey einstein, no one is arguing the cubs shouldn't have traded hill. also, learn math. Wow, I am shocked it took you this long to swoop in and defend your boy. He's not "defending his boy." He's pointing out, as others also have, how this most recent tangent seemingly arguing that people were against trading Hill when he was traded was created out of nowhere is actually against nobody. That i's being propped up by the oh-so-brilliant "take out their best performances..." argument is just cake.

Kind of? I'll give it an ironclad "definitely."

We used common sense.

Party pooper.

All of this filthy potty mouth talk is offensive and inpparopriate for any minors that may be browsing this site.

Is this really anything to flip out over? He felt tightness so they sat him to be on the safe side...OH NOES. If it continues to happen, OK, fine, but the first time? Breathe.

Shark draws the DP with a grounder right back to him, 1-2-3.

Theriot's name is messing up Pat's broadcast left and right.

ST or not, hearing all the cheesy intro music and Pat meas that all is right in the world.

One of the hardest hit by the loss of greenies. That guy usually came out looking wired half to the moon when he was on the Cubs.

Hopefully next time you'll think twice and remember this valuable lesson.

I assumed that was understood.