Sammy Sofa
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I don't understand what your point is. They can sell the place out without putting much money or even effort into a competitive team, yet they do. They haven't needed major shakeups and changes because they've done a good job of putting out a competitive team the last few years, not because of some made-up concern about losing ticket sales.
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I disagree with that and I think part of the reason that they've stood pat is because fans are filling the stadium and that we're still high over the MJ title runs. Business is good for Reinsdorf. What? They were still selling out even when the team sucked.
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They refuse to completely rebuild because they haven't needed to completely rebuild. This is obviously circular, but "basketball hell" isn't the thing you think it is. The Bulls are in a good position in that they've constructed a well-rounded, competitive team that's one of the best in the NBA. There's a primo FA period coming up. Mirotic will probably be here in a couple years. Talking like they should or need to "rebuild" is an unrealistic expectation.
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Yikes, 32k posts of elitist junk like this? It's not "elitist" to point out how obviously flawed your reasoning is. Not but it is to post a mock quotation of somebody else in a fake courtroom setting, straying off-topic to show the internets how you're the almighty king of all Chicago sports. It's not off topic. Stop complaining just because everyone disagrees with you.
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I never said the last two seasons they have been 'toiling fruitlessly.' Read better plz. So what does this mean? That only applied to every year except the last two? Yes. Our discussion/debate was centered around their Bulls drafting in years past. My point is that they've played it too conservative for too long. ... You just said that the post that broke down how you're wrong was "the best one here." What players do you think they missed out on with their conservative drafting? Do you really expect them to regularly "tear down the team" to trade up their picks?
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Yikes, 32k posts of elitist junk like this? It's not "elitist" to point out how obviously flawed your reasoning is.
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I never said the last two seasons they have been 'toiling fruitlessly.' Read better plz. So what does this mean? That only applied to every year except the last two?
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"So you're telling me that role player valued for his defense made the team a whole lot better OFFENSIVELY?!? CASE DISMISSED."
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The results of the last two season are not "toiling fruitlessly." By your standards everyone except two teams every year "toil fruitlessly."
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So they weren't actually a good team...only Rose was good and they tricked everyone to make it where they did? This is damn near gibberish. Wait...what? Don't get it twisted. Paxson did very little to make that team better in 2010. They still had the players in place before that season started and Rose covered up the huge hole of deficiencies on that team. *If this team was so great in 2011, the bulls should have gotten past the first round. With or without Rose they should have anyways. Yes, because the only issue was Rose going down. It's not like Noah and Deng were dealing with injuries, too. Noah went down at the end. I don't know about Deng, because every quote I read from him it goes along the lines of 'the injury didn't affect me because I got used to playing with it.' Despite, y'know, his numbers saying otherwise. Noah didn't just go down "at the end;" you're making it sound like he was injured in the final minutes of the last game.
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So now you're going to predict my reaction to moves they could have made? I would have been fine with 48 year old Kurt Thomas getting minutes behind the gimpy Boozer in 2010. Annnnnd of course you would have.
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This guy WAY overrates Rose. He's a fantastic player, but you're talking like you buy that MVP [expletive].
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So they weren't actually a good team...only Rose was good and they tricked everyone to make it where they did? This is damn near gibberish. Wait...what? Don't get it twisted. Paxson did very little to make that team better in 2010. They still had the players in place before that season started and Rose covered up the huge hole of deficiencies on that team. *If this team was so great in 2011, the bulls should have gotten past the first round. With or without Rose they should have anyways. Yes, because the only issue was Rose going down. It's not like Noah and Deng were dealing with injuries, too.
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And then you would have just been screaming about their lack of depth behind Deng and Noah and Boozer.
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So they weren't actually a good team...only Rose was good and they tricked everyone to make it where they did? This is damn near gibberish. Wait...what?
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I think that they're going to have to move Noah at some point, so why not sell high and get value in return? By the time this team is ready to compete for a title again, he'll need a new deal. If Deng didn't have the gimp wrist, he'd have some value as well but maybe if he doesn't need surgery the Bulls can again sell high and clear cap space. Do you really want to give Gibson a deal if Boozer isn't yet amnestied? Has Reinsdorf's history proven that he'd be willing to sink money into the amnesty provision? Or is Paxson gonna wait to get the shaft when some team offers him ridiculous money to match? Paxson hasn't grasped the concept of selling high, he'd rather wait for deals to expire and match offer sheets. All of his moves to date reek of him wanting to keep all of HIS guys that he's drafted instead of entertaining trade value and moving pieces around. That is my problem with him, he's too conservative. Wait, how would trading Deng or Noah now be selling high? They didn't and haven't "sold high" on guys like Asik and Gibson because you refuse to recognize the obvious: this has been a top shelf team the last two seasons and those two have been an integral part of it. Moving those guys over the last two seasons wouldn't have been selling high: it would have been inexplicably placating the random rage-filled online Bulls fan who views anything less than the Finals as failure.
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Yeah, but it's Scott Skiles; who gives a [expletive]?
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Wait, how did they "bungle" Skiles?
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That's because "mediocre" doesn't mean what you think it means.
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Because it's obvious what the Bulls need and they'll be in a better position to address it then based on who is available and the money they'll have to spend (I fully expect them to amnesty Boozer then). I have no problem with them trading, but only if there's a smart move that can be made. You want them to make moves simply to make moves.
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That they need a true #2 guard threat. But yeah, let's blow up the team because Crazy McGoo thinks they're terrible instead of just waiting until the FA crop of 2014.
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I find great delight in that this is your 4th or 5th comment about it. Wait, am I supposed to be embarrassed or insulted because of the quote?
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His posts are a [expletive] clown. Hindsight is 20/20 and please stop saying IF they were healthy they had a chance. They weren't healthy and it was widely accepted that their chances were iffy on beating the Heat and purely based on LBJ 'choking.' So Rose's ACL tearing means this roster was poorly constructed? Expecting Rose to play at a MVP level year in and year out is a bit of a stretch, not to mention if he has a down year this team is done. There were and are obvious huge flaws in the construction of the roster. Nobody is saying it was a perfect team, but you don't accomplish what they have the last two seasons with "obvious huge flaws." They basically had one major flaw.
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I mean, you understand that the quote in your sig isn't ironic, right?
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What has Paxson done to warrant anything more then a D grade? He's tried or wanted to extend every single player he has every drafted. He's done poorly in free agency and he's drafted mediocre players. Oh and he lucked into the #1 pick. Wake up, this team is in NBA hell. Their depth is now gone and we're stuck with an injured Rose/Deng/Noah for the time being, and an overpaid bum in Boozer. They're not "stuck" with Deng, Noah and Rose; all three are very valuable players, and to talk about them like they're not likely to contribute again or are busts is just absurd. Boozer is the one bad signing they're carrying right now, so quit trying to spin that as the team being poorly constructed when it's so obviously not. "NBA hell" isn't winning like the Bulls have for the last two seasons. And no credit for hiring Thibs? And you give them credit for the depth, but then talk like it's impossible they can build another quality bench. Which is it?
