Sammy Sofa
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I'm not even that outraged by PED's, I just found it funny that someone would find it disgusting and reprehensible to suggest that a record breaking Olympic sprinter would be suspected of juicing it up. Show me this person, so I may mock them as well. I swing a big ass battleaxe.
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There's "real life impacts" to simply being a professional athlete, so quite frankly I don't care if they choose to use PEDs or not.
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I mean, really, when the anti-PED people start calling others naive it's adorable. Practically everyone is on something. They still have to be amazing athletes to do amazing things.
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I'm often on record as saying I don't give a good God damn what any athlete is on; if it means they can do amazing things that entertain me then I welcome it.
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So is his chemist I hope he Two-Face's you.
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Who said that? Nobody; just making fun of how you think the rest of the season and the postseason are "tangible." "tangible" meaning you know you're in the playoffs this year and you know you're healthy. Neither of those things is guaranteed down the line Of course not. But given how largely young and talented their team is, the money they have, the crappy division they play in and the second WC they'd be stupid to risk Strasburg like that. Plus making the playoffs is by no mean a guarantee to win, so let's stop with this irrelevant "tangible" garbage. The bottom line is that you think the risks of not making the playoffs in the coming years outweigh the risk of taxing Strasburg this season.
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Who said that? Nobody; just making fun of how you think the rest of the season and the postseason are "tangible."
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Oh, right, I forgot they were a lock to win the WS if they don't shut him down.
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Everyone wants to see him pitch in the playoffs. Derwood thinks he should pitch the rest of the year, precautions be damned. I think the Nats should try to win when they're in the best shape to win, not purposely handicap themselves so maybe just maybe someday they might have another chance. What does the bold part even mean? How are they definitively in the best shape to win now as opposed to over the next several years?
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That's a terrible analogy. Why would pitching Strasburg another 30-40 innings be equal to an nearly 100% chance of getting your fingers chopped off? And if anyone knows terrible analogies it's this guy. But yeah, that was awful.
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Everyone wants to see him pitch in the playoffs. Derwood thinks he should pitch the rest of the year, precautions be damned.
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Wait, you're accusing other people of propping up strawmen? He's not just their ace; he's their very young ace coming back from major surgery who has never pitched nowhere near the amount of innings he'll pitch this year. I'm not implying this is your position. I'm simply asking the question. You're asking the question of whether we'd be "cool with shutting our ace down." That can mean a lot. If you're asking if the Cubs were in the Nationals' spot and they had Strasburg would I want them to do the same? Absolutely. To add to this, I'd be amazed at any Cubs fan who wouldn't want them to do the same given what they went through with Prior.
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Wait, you're accusing other people of propping up strawmen? He's not just their ace; he's their very young ace coming back from major surgery who has never pitched nowhere near the amount of innings he'll pitch this year. I'm not implying this is your position. I'm simply asking the question. You're asking the question of whether we'd be "cool with shutting our ace down." That can mean a lot. If you're asking if the Cubs were in the Nationals' spot and they had Strasburg would I want them to do the same? Absolutely.
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Wait, you're accusing other people of propping up strawmen? He's not just their ace; he's their very young ace coming back from major surgery who has never pitched nowhere near the amount of innings he'll pitch this year.
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Yeti's the only one who came close to saying that, and even then he said it was "likely." Everyone else is talking about it as what it is: a precautionary measure.
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8/12 Reds (Cueto) @ Cubs (Raley) 1:20 WGN
Sammy Sofa replied to David's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
No kidding. -
Says the guy who started this page with a righteous davearm2 post.
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Yuuuuuuup.
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of course they have a CHANCE to win, but right now, they ARE winning. This would be like the Bears winning the division, but deciding that Cutler or Forte had to be protected for the future, so they'll just put the backup in for the playoffs Yikes.
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8/12 Reds (Cueto) @ Cubs (Raley) 1:20 WGN
Sammy Sofa replied to David's topic in Fred Hornkohl Game Thread Forum
Actually, it makes plenty sense. The FO recognizes the flaws that guys like Jackson and Vitters have and see this season as basically like Rizzo last year; a chance to hopefully better identify what they need to work on so they have the bets chance to succeed. At the same time they're probably playing the game of trying not to completely crush these guys by throwing them out there every single game when they're likely to just fail. Try to focus on favorable matchups as much as possible and see if you can't both work on things and build their confidence. Just running them out there as much as possible isn't necessarily the best option; at some point it's just meatball-ish, "rub some dirt on it" garbage. I mean, really, do you seriously think this FO is playing things like Hendry or Dusty? -
He threw 24 inning last year. What should be his inning limit? As you say, every opportunity to compete is valuable but your citing the 2003 Cubs is flawed since the reckless use of Prior and Wood - similar to what you want the Nationals to do with Strasburg - torpedoed future Cubs teams' chances of competing in future years. I don't want them to have Strasburg throw 150 pitches every outing. I also don't want them to say "welp, we have the best record in baseball but we might win the WS in 3 or 4 years, so shut er' down, boys!" They're not shutting him down because they might win the World Series in 3-4 years. They're shutting him down because they want Strasburg healthy and pitching 200 innings in 3-4 years. which will be great if they're in 3rd place, right? Why do you think it's so likely they won't be competing again next year?
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Any comparisons to the 2003 Cubs grow even more ridiculous when you compare the ages of the guys getting the most playing time on the 2012 Nats to the old as [expletive] corpses mostly playing for the Cubs in 2003. The Nats are doing this with a younger team and with a guy like Harper playing well below his potential and in a pretty crappy division; they'd be foolish to act like this is likely to be their only shot.
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That's a really dense way to run a baseball team. It's a very Dusty way to run a baseball team.
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I support the Nationals shutting him down, but I can see the other side of the argument. There's really no predicting the future. We could have made the same argument about the 2003 Cubs (although I would argue a lot of the future developments had to do with the anti-Nationals treatment of our young pitchers). And Strasburg's mechanics are apparently so terrible, he's likely to have a short shelf life as it is. All they have to do is make the playoffs and they have a shot, and now they have even more of a chance to make the playoffs with the second WC added.
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http://i.cdn.turner.com/sivault/si_online/covers/images/2003/0707_large.jpg Prior's workload that season basically makes my point for me. Plus Wood was already damaged goods at that point.
