I can't wait for this game. I expect a classic. Of course lately those have become commonplace for Miami-VT. Right. That and PSU vs. WISC are pretty much conference title games. ACC has a title game though this year, right? Let's not get ahead of ourselves... PSU, even if they win, has to travel to East Lansing to face the Spartans. Their laid egg against Northwestern notwithstanding, they've proven in the games against ND, Michigan and Ohio State that they are at least competitive with good teams. True, but if PSU wins, they will still have just 1 loss (along with OSU, who looks to beat the snot out of the Illini). Even if PSU were to lose to MSU, they still hold the tiebreaker over NU, OSU and WISC for 2 loss teams. If PSU wins Saturday, the only thing that would screw them up is if they lost to MSU and OSU won out. And just so everyone knows, the OSU-UM game is at UM this year. You know what that means ref-wise don't you? :wink: