I'm sorry if this wasn't you, but were you the one saying that Ronny is crap a couple weeks ago? Just trying to remember. yup, although that was more in reference to his vaunted D. Right, I could swear that was in a thread comparing the teams in the NL central as a whole, not just defense. It initially started in a game thread after another Cedeno airmail package to 1st. Then someone whined in the thread you remember, complaining that I'd have the audacity to call Cedeno "crap."