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  1. Personally I wouldn't call this pure anger. If you ask me, it was one of the calmest trade threads ever on this board. Most people were resigned to the fact Barrett was going, not a lot of people are ecstatic about the deal, but there's only been a couple people who've gone ballistic. Bowen's been a mediocre producing catcher in his pro career who is having a good 2007 but probably won't sustain the numbers. He'd be a nice cheap backup for a team with a good starter, but he's probably not starter material himself, at least in the long haul, but he'll be stable defensively. The kid whose parents were desperate for a name that started with K has some physical ability but hasn't done jack squat as a pro (600 OPS in rookie ball and sub 600 in low A ball). I would agree with all of this, with the caveat that this trade will look much worse if SS or RF aren't upgraded fairly quickly. If we want to contend, we can't wait til July 31st to make a move. We're 7 back and 5 under. The time to make a run is now.
  2. The Yankees will not be selling at the deadline unless they have another losing streak between now and then that keeps them around 12 back.
  3. You do realize it's tough to judge NINETEEN YEAR OLD minor leaguers based on stats in Low ball right? Man you are the king of hyperbole. It's tough, but the guy's stats do not inspire much hope in me. Cripes, he's barely hitting over .200 and has a BABIP of .321. His rate stats are terrible, even considering he's 19 at Low A. If he develops, bonus for us. I don't think he was the guy Hendry was targeting. I don't think Hendry was targeting anyone. I think he was trying to dump Barrett.
  4. Our offense isn't good enough to trade offense for defense. Again, I'm pretty indifferent on this, but we still need to upgrade SS or RF. This deal didn't get us any closer to that, unless SD is giving us a lot of cash.
  5. While I'll agree that I'm glad he's gone, you can't trade a player with his offensive ability just for the sake of it. Not on this team, anyway. We're not good enough offensively to do that. I maintain that I hope there's a follow up move here that upgrades our RF or SS situation.
  6. How many players actually get traded at their peak value? Not that many. Not very many, true, but it would be nice to not trade someone at their lowest possible value.
  7. Ok, so it's looking like Barrett for Bowen and Kyler Burke? We're not getting much back, but at least EPatt is staying put. I would hope that Hendry has a move in mind to bring in some more offense, because now we have a definite black hole at C.
  8. maybe the Padres made it contingent that Bowen comes our way if they take Barrett That doesn't make any sense, either. San Diego is clearly getting the best player in this deal. Why should they be in a position to dictate terms on who we take back? We're not dealing Jones or Eyre here where we're at a disadvantage; Barrett does have value.
  9. Blanco could be out for the season. You still not want to get another pitcher because Prior or Wood could be coming back??? Even if Blanco is out for the season, they still have Hill and Soto. If one of them got hurt, backup C's are always available. Prior and Wood would have nothing to do with trading for a pitching prospect.
  10. Another question is, why do the Cubs think they need a C? Between Hill, Soto and Blanco, aren't they ok enough without having to aquire more catchers?
  11. well then that's really, really dumb (depending on the prospect) As bad as the other deal was, at least we got a major league player that could help us now out of it.
  12. You're about the sixth person to make the complaint, but not one person has stated why its a bad deal with any amount of reason. Because it's a good offensive C and one of our top 5 prospects for a middle reliever. Linebrink is a very good middle reliever, but that's not what this team needs right now.
  13. Linebrink is a good reliever, but EPatt should have been used as part of a better package. Our offense is also now weaker than it was 24 hours ago. This is why I don't trust Hendry to deal anyone, ever. He's the king of trading low.
  14. http://www.sealclubbers.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/12/quimby.jpg Vote USS
  15. The Bulls would need to clear ~$17M of cap space to take back Kobe's 19.5M salary. So they'd have to renounce Noc or send him to the 4th team.
  16. Without a doubt I'd rather have Kobe, especially given the package you're giving up (Gordon, Duhon, Thomas, #9). I agree...but if we make this deal, what on earth are we doing at the 4 next year? Re-sign both Noc and PJ? It would suck to have an aging Wallace and PJ as our frontcourt... but you can't have it all, I guess. Mikki Moore or Joe Smith would be options at the 4. They'd probably take the MLE.
  17. -Gordon, TT, Duhon and ninth pick isn't close to enough salary for Kobe. It's a shade under $14M and Kobe's due to make $19.5M next year before his trade kicker takes effect -We don't know whom the 4th team is giving up. -LA can't expect to trade Kobe and get better. That said, they'd have to be ecstatic to be getting the big ticket back. So does the recieving team have to make the salary equal out for the team give up the player that they are recieving, or do the salaries overall just have to equal out?
  18. I'm of the mind that if Kirk didn't have to guard players like Wade, Bryant, Arenas, Redd, James, etc night in and night out his offensive numbers would improve even more than they did last year.
  19. So what would LA's lineup be? Odom Bynum Garnett Duhon ?
  20. 4th team might be getting someone almost as bad as Kwame? For LA, it isn't really about improving, right? Kobe wants out. It's not like they want to trade him. A lateral move in which they still have a superstar would be a good thing, because they most likely aren't going to get equal value for Kobe in any one on one deals. Deals can't be made until next week, right?
  21. http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=674590&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=960 I don't really understand where the 4th team comes in, and what they'd be giving up...but it seems like the three named parties would make out pretty well. Not sure how it works with the cap, either. Just figured I'd pass along for discussion. I'd give that up for Kobe. In an ideal world, I'd love to keep TT around because that would be a really exciting team to watch, but I think that deal looks decently fair for all involved. -I'm not sure how that works under the cap. -Why would anyone want Duhon when they have Farmair? -That 4th team is getting hosed. -It seems like we make out like bandits, while LA kind of makes a lateral move. It seems like they'd want more than just Garnett and Duhon. They're going to need a pick, too, or another really good player, because that move doesn't really make them better.
  22. Wow. I don't think we're that bad, but damn. I was amused. I'm pretty sure I saw my old Sunday league ranked at 64 ahead of MLS.
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