For the record, we'd be robbing the Padres in any Pie for Greene deal. The Cubs window to win is right now. Ramirez, Lee and Soriano aren't going to maintain this level of play for much longer. We have jack crap in the minors coming up that's closer than 2 years away. Pie might or might not correct the flaws he has and become a good player. However, we have nothing remotely in our system SS wise like Khalil Greene. As Meph said, Cedeno does not count, because our management don't seem to care for him. We had close to the worst SS production in the league last season. CF was bad, but SS was far, far worse. Happily, Fukudome could play CF, and we're still the frontrunners there. All he costs is money. Thus, the upgrade Greene would provide at SS would blow away anything Pie would give us in CF over what Jones gave us there last season. We'd keep a couple of trading chips in case we want to fill another hole, which also can't be overlooked. Meph said it much more succinctly than I, but he's absolutely correct in saying that giving up Pie for Greene would be a good move.