In what way is Lugo an older Cedeno? Lugo is a moderately priced productive SS. He's very similar to Furcal. Cedeno might one day be as productive as Lugo, but we sure as heck don't know for sure. I think you just answered your own question -- a moderately priced productive SS. I know you're not sold on Ronny, but I most definitely am after watching him in Des Moines a few times. I think he's going to be just fine. No, I didn't answer my question. You can't just say you saw him in Iowa a couple times and therefore he's just a younger Lugo. Ronny is very much an unproven commodity. He doesn't have a strong track record of productivity in the minors to fall back on. You can think he's going to be just fine all you want, but that doesn't mean you can wave off the fact that Lugo would provide something Ronny cannot, which is stable productivity (as opposed to Neifi, who is stable crappiness). I most certainly can wave off that "fact". In my opinion (not yours) Lugo is not a significant upgrade over Ronny.