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Who knows. May be short a class and need to take a summer class. Doesn't sound like his family was fully on board or aware of that. Need to send out Dapper Bobby Diaco to smooth things over.

There's been smoke there a while.

That's great Tim. But all due respect, I prefer abuck's method. Have rules and apply them equally to all and the questions of fairness are hard to raise. Also, you were pretty adamant that I was intentionally throwing our matchup last year and rather than message me about it, you attacked me here and called me out on the chat. So I get the intent behind your approach, but we all bring bias to the table. Applying the same rules and penalties to all minimizes that bias.

I know. Juan said the same thing. But that doesn't mean the mistake should be treated differently than anyone else's mistake. Why would truffle or me or sneaky get penalized for making the same mistake you or raw or Juan made? I think if everyone knew coming in that rules applied differently to original or longtime members than new managers, you'd have a hard time filling those spots. Maybe the issue is I'm starting from the baseline of "all violations are unintentional mistakes and should be treated the same." Am I the only one that assumes that? Or are you skeptical that new guys are going to try to scam the league so they should have to face penalties that other members don't? I don't think that's the idea. I think people just don't like being penalized so they want the rules to not apply to them when they make a mistake.

Haha. Ok. First, I said you didn't start bitching but said "oops guess I'll take the penalty." Then after several posts it turned into bitching. I said Juan started with bitching. There's no problem with me concerning how others manage. Minny has been mostly absent and I know it's work/life reasons. I'm aware it happens. I don't care about [expletive] coming up in life. Manage your team actively or not. Isn't my concern. The problem isn't me (or adam). I know adam's history. I've been on the site nearly a decade. I've read many of the posts on this forum which crack me up. Abuck can be brash. Some people also overreact. Not sure that's his fault. I don't personally care if you hate him or love him, I just thought calling him out when he volunteered to be commish and has been an active, fair commish is a tad over the top. Finally, I'm glad you've been in the league 10 years. I'm sincere in that. That's a cool thing. It'd be great if this league were still active and fun in 10 years. But having a good record as a manager for 10 years doesn't entitle you to an exception from the rules. You made a mistake and the system is hard to use. That sucks. But you don't earn exemptions after so many years. You get the penalty and move on.

I would have preferred that the 4-man bench not be deemed illegal in response to Juan's situation. But abuck didn't take the points away, he just changed the system settings. I don't envy him bc the system is the worst one I've ever used for fantasy baseball and the rules of this league are more complex than any I've seen. Not a good combo. I don't think his decisions on how to manage those issues have been brash or warranted an attack on him as a person. I think he's done fine (btw-no one lost a first round pick even though not everyone paid by his deadline). I guess I don't understand the appeal of being in a league you check for a few seconds once a week. If you don't want to check most every day, what's the point? But I understand not everyone is like that. However if you're going to check in once a week, I think you have to accept the risks that your team may be screwed up for days at a time and you'll have to accept the penalty. And FYI I don't know who is or isn't active by your terms, but I bitched when my legal lineup got penalized and it was fixed. The other 2 that have bitched recently were you and Juan, both apparently on the less active side. If you both just said "oops, my team was screwed up and I didn't fix it for a few days, I'll take the stated penalty without complaints" then there would be no issue. You started there but have gone on to complain about being penalized. Juan started bitching and got pissed at everyone else for not sending him a message (the several posts in chat and here weren't enough - we are supposed to do more I guess). That's really been what's struck me about this league. There are rules and penalties. If you break the rule, you get the penalty. There's some leniency (like I assume you'll get points today bc you alerted everyone to the ARod error right away). But when someone screws up the first thing they do is bitch about the rule, then ask for an exception bc they play far, then they sometimes even complain about others not doing more. The "drop a player when you add one" is so basic that I don't understand why it's so often broken. If you aren't active, sign up for the email alerts so you know when you have a player added by waiver claim or whatever. It should be fun. If people accepted some responsibility and didn't complain when they make a mistake and have to pay the price everyone else pays, there would be much less bitching.

What has abuck done that's over the top? Having case by case rules is just a recipe for disaster. And come on. Juan knew the rule. Maybe he accidentally had an extra guy twice in 3 weeks but the active roster limit hasn't changed at all. If he really thought the roster limit was now 25, why only have 20? And why would you think every other team was playing 6-men short? And wouldn't you have figured it out when you got penalized for having an extra two weeks earlier? And why wouldn't you start the season and play every week with a larger bench if you thought that was the limit? Yes I think there can be explanation when a person breaks the rules. And there has been. I asked a lot of questions last year and got a lot of answers (not always consistent). Sneaky has asked me some questions this year and I've tried to help Minny too. But you can't abandon the rules when someone accidentally breaks them or there's no incentive to pay attention to the rules. If your situation is such that you only check the league on mobile and once a week then that sucks and it's pretty risky. I also think it's easier to say "hey, I added arod who is on the DL and couldn't move him there before games started" and abuck can fix your points today rather than trying to make changes when no one knew you had tried to drop Locke until well after the fact.

It's not about how many starters are going. It's a question of who is on your bench. I had Smyly on my bench (a 3rd RP) which I obviously couldn't put in the lineup. And I had 2 hitters on the bench. So if I didn't want Cingrani's points, I had to have 4 on the bench. Would also be a problem if you have 3 hitters on the bench and have to sit a pitcher. Someone else posted in the live chat that they were going to have to do the same thing. Clint, I think. ETA - yep, it was Bazingas. He has 3 hitters on the bench, and put a SP on the bench to stay under 7 starts. So he had a 4-man bench on the 18th and 19th (maybe more). If he lost all his points those days, they should be added back. 88 seems pretty damn low. Yep. He didn't get credit for Medlan's start on the 18th or Felix's start on the 19th. That matchup might be different if he doesn't lose all his points despite having a legal roster.

fine. but, as you'll recall, this extended bench thing caused someone to think we now allowed a six man bench like 2 weeks ago. I know. But that's sort of insane. It seems much more likely that someone will need or want to bench a SP to avoid a start than in it is that someone who has been in the league for years or even created it suddenly thinking the active rosters have expanded to 25 when every team has 19 active players and that person decides to only use 20 of the 25 available spots.

It's pretty crazy. The Cubs' run differential is 5 runs better than the Nationals, and yet they're 4 games behind them in the standings. The Cubs' run differential is 10 better than the Padres, and they're 1.5 games behind them. 13 runs better than the Dodgers and a half game behind, 17 runs better than the Brewers and tied, and 20 runs better than the Phillies and 1.5 games behind. That's what happens when you give up runs late in games. I didn't realize late inning runs were worth more.

In my opinion, the bench spot penalty is pretty dumb. It's weird that something you can do in every fantasy league (start fewer than the max players) is suddenly an illegal lineup that requires abuck to override the system. Go back to allowing extra bench spots as long as the max active player limit is still 19. I just don't believe that's really confusing to anyone when the max hasn't changed in years.

Will be getting 60 points added when abuck returns from his travels across the globe. So sorry Deven if you thought you pulled out the W last week.

Will someone with commish powers give me my points back?

It is allowed under our rules. But to make it work, we had to expand the bench limits. For some reason, that confused people into thinking they could have more than 19 players, so abuck switched it so having more than 3 on your bench is illegal.

I did. As I posted, I benched cingrani b/c I didn't want his start. I think we need to keep the settings to allow at least a 4 man bench since we mess with SPs so much.

So all 60 of my points from yesterday are gone, but my lineup was legal. Can one of the 10 people with commish powers restore those points today?

Wisco gives anyone a run for their cream puff money (with one cupcake yet to come) vs. Temple vs. Akron @ Rutgers vs. UMass vs. Northwestern @ Michigan vs. Ohio State vs. Maryland @ Indiana @ Illinois vs. Michigan State one non-con to go. Outside of the UM/OSU back-to-back, I'm not scared of any of those teams. You have 2 and probably 3 games harder than any game on Wisconsin's schedule.

Wisco gives anyone a run for their cream puff money (with one cupcake yet to come) Sep 6 Western Illinois Sep 13 open Sep 20 Bowling Green Sept. 27 USF Oct. 4 at Northwestern Oct. 11 Illinois Oct. 18 open Oct. 25 Maryland Nov. 1 at Rutgers Nov. 8 at Purdue Nov. 15 Nebraska Nov. 22 at Iowa Nov. 29 Minnesota

You jelly, bro?

How did such an all world all-around gifted athlete end up at a&m anyway?

Glad he's using his 15 minutes to look like a d-bag

Wear a shark hat

So you wanted someone to respond to your post by suggesting that they move him to first so you could say "Told you Rizzo wasn't a generational player!" So tricky.

Why save Rizzo from himself?

I don't want Tim's analysis. I want Law's.